President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[Northwestcoug]

Open the border. Felons are deported for life. Fingerprint and DNA everyone who comes in. Anyone sneaking across will be a criminal, so a wall, minefield, whatever is ok, but not necessary. America is the greatest country in the world because people come here seeking opportunity. If we stop imigration, we hinder progress. Sure, some will come to leech off the system. That's the price you pay for taking care of people who are down on their luck. People should accept that. In the long run, we're better off striving to make this a country where even an orphaned son of a prostitute can rise to make his mark, so that everyone with a dream wants to live here.

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I like the overall sentiment, but I'm not big on getting DNA from everybody, tbh.

[BlueK]

Poor Trump. Hopefully, he gets his apology soon.

Seriously, it's hard for me to think of anyone I have ever known in life who has this much need for affirmation from others -- certainly not anyone who hasn't spent a good amount of time in a mental hospital. Truly bizarre, and actually pretty frightening he can be in the position of power he is. On the one hand I feel sorry for him. He must have had a hell of a tough time as a kid. I mean, his dad was in the KKK and sent Trump to military school. I'm guessing that wasn't a fun guy to be around.

At the same time it's not hard at all to imagine he might be capable of even selling out any principles he may have to the highest bidder (yes, even a hostile foreign power led by a shrewd dictator) if he thinks they can help get him what he wants in the short term.

[frank ryan]

Seriously, it's hard for me to think of anyone I have ever known in life who has this much need for affirmation from others -- certainly not anyone who hasn't spent a good amount of time in a mental hospital. Truly bizarre, and actually pretty frightening he can be in the position of power he is. On the one hand I feel sorry for him. He must have had a hell of a tough time as a kid.

At the same time it's not hard at all to imagine he might be capable of even selling out any principles he may have to the highest bidder (yes, even a hostile foreign power led by a shrewd dictator) if he thinks they can help get him what he wants in the short term.

That’s why I can’t stand right winger Trump supporters mention SJW snowflakes. Trump is the biggest snowflake in the world, and his followers take after him. The media, the FBI, everyone is to sabotage this wonderful man who does no wrong.

[BlueK]

That’s why I can’t stand right winger Trump supporters mention SJW snowflakes. Trump is the biggest snowflake in the world, and his followers take after him. The media, the FBI, everyone is to sabotage this wonderful man who does no wrong.

I haven't read this yet but I heard an interview with the author a few months ago that was very interesting. If I remember right he came from a poor family in Appalachia and was able to rise to the top and go to an Ivy League school. The book explains a lot about the culture many of the hardest core Trump supporters come from. It has largely become a culture of blame (it's those Black and Hispanic people getting more free stuff from the government than I do, or the foreigners who came and took our jobs, etc.) while at the same time completely ignoring or failing to take responsibility for one's own bad decisions that got them into the tough spot they are in (dropping out of school, having kids out of wedlock, turning to alcohol or drugs at an early age, etc.)

Then Trump comes around and knows how to manipulate and push all their buttons and there you go. They can overlook anything Trump does to himself, well, because it's never as much as the damage inflicted on him by everyone else, in their view. They relate to that because it's the trap they've fallen into. The guy who wrote the book took himself out of that background, but unfortunately those who are still there will probably never read the book. This is where you would hope their religious leaders would do a little more. People like Joel Osteen are trying, I suppose, but most just tell them what they want to hear, I think.

https://www.amazon.com/Hillbilly-Ele.../dp/0062300547

[Jeff Lebowski]

I haven't read this yet but I heard an interview with the author a few months ago that was very interesting. If I remember right he came from a poor family in Appalachia and was able to rise to the top and go to an Ivy League school. The book explains a lot about the culture many of the hardest core Trump supporters come from. It has largely become a culture of blame (it's those Black and Hispanic people getting more free stuff from the government than I do, or the foreigners who came and took our jobs, etc.) while at the same time completely ignoring or failing to take responsibility for one's own bad decisions that got them into the tough spot they are in (dropping out of school, having kids out of wedlock, turning to alcohol or drugs at an early age, etc.)

Then Trump comes around and knows how to manipulate and push all their buttons and there you go. They can overlook anything Trump does to himself, well, because it's never as much as the damage inflicted on him by everyone else, in their view. They relate to that because it's the trap they've fallen into. The guy who wrote the book took himself out of that background, but unfortunately those who are still there will probably never read the book. This is where you would hope their religious leaders would do a little more. People like Joel Osteen are trying, I suppose, but most just tell them what they want to hear, I think.

https://www.amazon.com/Hillbilly-Ele.../dp/0062300547

I liked that book.

[Walter Sobchak]

What's bad is that reputable news orgs mistakenly reported this in the first place, thus adding fuel to the fake news fire.

Trump's opponents can't make a mistake like that. But Trump and his people can purposely make up and say and distribute whatever they want on Facebook and Twitter.

"Trump's opponents" are reputable news orgs? Do tell. Theoretically, the news orgs are supposed to be impartial.

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[Maximus]

Yes, that’s disturbing. It’s no more disturbing under Trump than it was under Obama.

except it has increased under trump. indisputable.

[Maximus]

I’m curious what people think we should do in these cases. Should the border not be enforced or maybe they want the kids to be detained in jail with the parents? What’s the alternative? Open border? Seems like a not so good alternative.

treat people like humans? not hard. but trump these are shit hole people.

[BlueK]

"Trump's opponents" are reputable news orgs? Do tell. Theoretically, the news orgs are supposed to be impartial.

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The press are enemies of the people. I thought you knew that. At least that's what dear leader told us.

Ok, Sherlock, I should have chosen a couple of words a little more precisely in my post. BUT YOU ARE EXACTLY MAKING MY POINT. Anyone saying anything less than flattering about dear leader has to be held to impeccable standards of perfection or his worshippers are out.

But then on the other side, ANYTHING goes and they don't care. They even know he's lying. Sure, humans make mistakes sometimes with details. The point is that on the Trump side, deception itself IS the message. How many different conflicting stories does Trump (or Giuliani, or Sarah Huckleberry Sanders or anyone else speaking for him) tell about about the same thing in a week? Yes, I fired Comey because he was a bad leader and the people who worked for him hated him. No wait, it was because he was too mean to Hillary. No, I'll tell you what Lester, I made up my mind before the memo was even written. It was really about that Russiar thing.

[frank ryan]

Hahahahaha, it sounds Donald is writing Melania's tweets now:

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[Walter Sobchak]

The press are enemies of the people. I thought you knew that. At least that's what dear leader told us.

Ok, Sherlock, I should have chosen a couple of words a little more precisely in my post. BUT YOU ARE EXACTLY MAKING MY POINT. Anyone saying anything less than flattering about dear leader has to be held to impeccable standards of perfection or his worshippers are out.

Oh, brother. Mistrust of the supposed "impartial" press (as in the CBS/ABC/NBC News, NYT, WaPo, and your local city newspapers) started long before Trump.

I don't expect neutrality from MSNBC, FoxNews, HuffPo, The National Review, The Atlantic, WSJ, et al that obviously lean one way or another.

[frank ryan]

Trump reportedly said he wants to stop German luxury car imports in the US

President Donald Trump is hoping to block German luxury carmakers from the U.S. market, according to an exclusive report by German magazine WirtschaftsWoche.
Citing several unnamed U.S. and European diplomats, the weekly business magazine reported that Trump told French President Emmanuel Macron last month he would maintain his trade policy with the aim of stopping Mercedes-Benz models from driving down Fifth Avenue in New York. The report didn't give any further details on what policies would be used to effectively ban the premium carmakers.

The report comes less than two weeks after the U.S. Department of Commerce launched an investigation into automobile imports to determine whether they "threaten to impair the national security" of the U.S. That could lead to tariffs of up to 25 percent on the same "national security" grounds used to impose metal imports charges in March.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/31/trum...4DEVICE%24=amp

[BlueK]

Oh, brother. Mistrust of the supposed "impartial" press (as in the CBS/ABC/NBC News, NYT, WaPo, and your local city newspapers) started long before Trump.

I don't expect neutrality from MSNBC, FoxNews, HuffPo, The National Review, The Atlantic, WSJ, et al that obviously lean one way or another.

I said mistrust of the press started with Trump? Duh, of course not.

But Trump clearly takes it to the next level. That's not even debatable. We've never had a president channel dead Communist strongmen with his "enemy of the people" BS. We've also never had a president try to continually create an alternative fake reality like he does. Nice new example this morning with his tweet that he didn't fire Comey because of Russia. Never mind he's on tape saying the complete opposite in his Lester Holt interview, or what he told the Russians in his oval office meeting with them when he made the comment about Comey being the nutjob and now the pressure over the Russian thing is over (he thought).

[BlueK]

Trump reportedly said he wants to stop German luxury car imports in the US



https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/31/trum...4DEVICE%24=amp

It won't be so fun for him when the good economy crashes over his idiotic tariffs and moronic trade ideas.

[BlueK]

Even dumber than tariffs on German cars -- 25% tariff on steel and aluminum to be slapped on Canada, Mexico and the EU. Geez. Hello world wide trade war and resulting recession if this really happens. But a really bad economy might be the only thing that would dislodge his base from him.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/31/news...ffs/index.html