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  • Jeff Lebowski
    Corporate lackey for Jesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 69561

    #631
    Originally posted by creekster View Post
    Becasue words matter. What you said is not, apparently, what you meant. If she is asked about the policy and she says "I think we can all agree that we don't want guns at schools. But how that gets accomplished should be a matter for the states, not the federal government" her statement expresses a mandated result (guns banned from schools) but allows for alternate mechanisms to achieve that result. That policy should not be required by the federal government. End of story. Your re-statement is better but it is not the same as the words you put in her mouth in your prior post.
    No, it does not constitute a mandate. It expresses a general common sense sentiment.
    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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    • Dwight Schr-ute
      Members Only
      • May 2011
      • 4917

      #632
      Does DeVos even know that there's a Bear River High School in Utah?!

      Bear River High.jpg
      I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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      • creekster
        It is NOT a monkey!
        • Nov 2008
        • 22661

        #633
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        No, it does not constitute a mandate. It expresses a general common sense sentiment.
        Look, its clear, now, what you meant, but the words you put in her mouth meant something else. I agreed your initial proposed answer was certainly vastly superior to what she actually said, but it is not, in the mouth of a proposed secty of ed., the best formulation of what you apparently meant. You, of course, think you got it just right. I don't. I am sure the reading public can make up their own minds.
        PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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        • Bo Diddley
          Senior
          • Jul 2012
          • 18743

          #634
          Originally posted by creekster View Post
          Becasue words matter. What you said is not, apparently, what you meant. If she is asked about the policy and she says "I think we can all agree that we don't want guns at schools. But how that gets accomplished should be a matter for the states, not the federal government" her statement expresses a mandated result (guns banned from schools) but allows for alternate mechanisms to achieve that result. That policy should not be required by the federal government. End of story. Your re-statement is better but it is not the same as the words you put in her mouth in your prior post.
          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          No, it does not constitute a mandate. It expresses a general common sense sentiment.
          One of my favorite CS themes is the parsing of words.

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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69561

            #635
            Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
            One of my favorite CS themes is the parsing of words.

            Words matter!!!

            (one of my least favorite)
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • creekster
              It is NOT a monkey!
              • Nov 2008
              • 22661

              #636
              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Words matter!!!

              (one of my least favorite)
              People who have a problem being precise often say that.
              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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              • Bo Diddley
                Senior
                • Jul 2012
                • 18743

                #637
                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                Words matter!!!
                I don't disagree.

                I try to be straightforward and say things in as few words as possible. (That's the goal.) I find that people don't take words at face value. They want to fill in gaps and extrapolate meaning.

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                • Goatnapper'96
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10920

                  #638
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Words matter!!!

                  (one of my least favorite)
                  The also often, much like violence, break the silence.
                  Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                  -General George S. Patton

                  I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                  -DOCTOR Wuap

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                  • creekster
                    It is NOT a monkey!
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 22661

                    #639
                    Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                    I don't disagree.

                    I try to be straightforward and say things in as few words as possible. (That's the goal.) I find that people don't take words at face value. They want to fill in gaps and extrapolate meaning.
                    Conversely, people often assume implied meanings should be universally clear even if the words don't state them.
                    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                    • Jeff Lebowski
                      Corporate lackey for Jesus
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 69561

                      #640
                      Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                      I don't disagree.

                      I try to be straightforward and say things in as few words as possible. (That's the goal.) I find that people don't take words at face value. They want to fill in gaps and extrapolate meaning.
                      And some folks are just super anal.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • Omaha 680
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 11174

                        #641
                        Variety's Inauguration Issue looks to be pretty good. I read the Glenn Beck and Michael Moore interviews and enjoyed them both. Looks like they have interviewed a good cross section of people and I plan on reading them all.

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                        • Northwestcoug
                          Cocked and Loaded
                          • May 2011
                          • 17951

                          #642
                          Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                          One of my favorite CS themes is the parsing of words.

                          "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                          "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                          - SeattleUte

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                          • BlueK
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 7169

                            #643
                            If you're cynical about politics, as most of us are now, the inevitable fight between Trump and his own party in congress, which should start within days of the inauguration will be quite entertaining. Replace what we have now with even more universal health care? Yeah, right.

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                            • Maximus
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 6012

                              #644

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                              • imanihonjin
                                Junior Member
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 3772

                                #645
                                Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                                What a dumb ass.

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