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  • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
    continues to be a weird schtick bro
    Yeah I agree, that whole libertarian thing is pretty weird.
    "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
    "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
    - SeattleUte

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    • You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
      Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski

      Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
      You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst

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      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        One of the crazy things about Trump supporters is that no matter how stupid or insane a thing he does, they find a way to spin it. The most common refrain being "I love how he is living rent-free in the heads of liberals." My goodness, what a dumb copout. Virtually anything can be spun as a positive with that response. Zero thinking or logic or rational argument required. The "rent-free" phrase has been hijacked to where it is completely meaningless.
        I wish Trump would act more presidential I really do. However, it's not going to happen. In the universe of his social media sins and other instances of bad form this CNN body slam thing isn't worth getting panties in a twist.

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        • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
          I wish Trump would act more presidential I really do. However, it's not going to happen. In the universe of his social media sins and other instances of bad form this CNN body slam thing isn't worth getting panties in a twist.
          Ron Paul thinks that Drumpf should keep tweeting...

          Trump's Tweets Are Smashing The Government Religion
          [...]
          To be sure, today's dominant beliefs have been cultivated for a very long time. Government's compulsory "schools," mainstream media, politically-connected corporations, churches, and countless other groups have placed politicians on a pedestal.


          In fact, go to Washington D.C. and you can see the pedestals and the shrines for yourself.


          The liberty vs. power see-saw swung in the other direction around the beginning of the 1900's. Comically, it would become known as the "progressive" era, and it's still with us today.


          After creating wealth on a scale that was never seen before on planet Earth, it was time for liberty to get knocked down. America would chart a new course.


          The former land of the free would become the land of the Caesars, who would all make their contribution to conquering the outside world. Liberty (they hoped) would be buried forever.


          Pulling such a major change off requires a lot of propaganda...like massive amounts that appear around every corner. Many millions of people would have to view politicians as a special breed of human.


          It took many years, and a ton of persistence, but the political classes in America pulled it off.


          Today, American presidents are shuffled around the world with extravagant entourages, and showered with pomp-and-circumstance that would have made King George III jealous.


          Because Empires require other countries to play along (by force if necessary) the American president has been viewed as a superhuman all over the world.


          For a little more than 100 years, all aspects of the political establishment have crafted a He-Man known as the American President. He wears a nice suit and tie, is well-spoken, kisses babies, talks about compassion. He looks and acts very "presidential."


          ... And then came Donald Trump ...


          The opening salvo against the establishment's fantasy would come from the Internet. No longer would Americans be exposed to a single script propagated by something called a "mainstream media."


          The Internet even pokes holes into all the stories that government schools have been propagating as well.


          Maybe all of those wars were a complete lie, and countless millions have died in vain. Maybe politicians are just tools of crony interests, that are auctioned off to the highest bidder.


          It's amazing what one can learn when exposed to other opinions. The Internet lacerated the political classes and they've been struggling to censor it ever since Netscape gave us the browser.


          And now Donald Trump comes along as president and starts firing off one Tweet after another. The new president is completely off script!


          Trump's speech, demeanor, attitude and persona are nothing like the deified president that the political classes have created for America.


          Unfortunately, Trump's not contributing to liberty from a policy perspective. His policies have been pure establishment, but we'll take the tweets nevertheless.


          Trump is showing the world that the American President is really just a human being after all. He appeals to, and acts, like the man on the street.


          Is the illusion of the presidency broken?


          Probably not. Beliefs take a while to change.


          But keep tweeting President Trump.


          Keep smashing the government religion.
          http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/...nment-religion

          It is pretty ironic how a body slam joke gets the MSM up in arms about that Drumpf is obviously a violent person and not very presidential. At the same time the NYTimes refuses to pull their sponsorship of a play that has a depiction of Drumpf being assassinated. Where is the professionalism? Obviously it doesn't exist any more so maybe everyone just needs to get use to it and realize that Drumpf appeals to the common man, the people that elected him. And as long as the MSM keeps attacking him and he keeps body slamming them then he will most likely get re-elected by this same group of people.
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
            I wish Trump would act more presidential I really do. However, it's not going to happen. In the universe of his social media sins and other instances of bad form this CNN body slam thing isn't worth getting panties in a twist.
            No! We have to invoke the 25th amendment now or we will all die!!!!!


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            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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            • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
              No! We have to invoke the 25th amendment now or we will all die!!!!!
              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                Ron Paul thinks that Drumpf should keep tweeting...


                http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/...nment-religion

                It is pretty ironic how a body slam joke gets the MSM up in arms about that Drumpf is obviously a violent person and not very presidential. At the same time the NYTimes refuses to pull their sponsorship of a play that has a depiction of Drumpf being assassinated. Where is the professionalism? Obviously it doesn't exist any more so maybe everyone just needs to get use to it and realize that Drumpf appeals to the common man, the people that elected him. And as long as the MSM keeps attacking him and he keeps body slamming them then he will most likely get re-elected by this same group of people.
                I enjoyed Paul's line that, "Trump is showing the world that the American President is really just a human being after all. He appeals to, and acts, like the man on the street." Trump is not showing that at all. Do I need to post pictures of his Manhattan apartment, Mar a Lago, or other Trump domiciles whose opulence--nay, garishness--would make Louis XIV blush?

                But yes, his fourth grade speech patterns and schoolyard tough guy image appeal to society's lowest common denominator. It's confounding and depressing that so many see wisdom or leadership in the tweets sent from his gilded toilet seat.

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                • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                  I enjoyed Paul's line that, "Trump is showing the world that the American President is really just a human being after all. He appeals to, and acts, like the man on the street." Trump is not showing that at all. Do I need to post pictures of his Manhattan apartment, Mar a Lago, or other Trump domiciles whose opulence--nay, garishness--would make Louis XIV blush?

                  But yes, his fourth grade speech patterns and schoolyard tough guy image appeal to society's lowest common denominator. It's confounding and depressing that so many see wisdom or leadership in the tweets sent from his gilded toilet seat.
                  kinda sad how rand paul is always defending trump as well.

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                  • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                    I enjoyed Paul's line that, "Trump is showing the world that the American President is really just a human being after all. He appeals to, and acts, like the man on the street." Trump is not showing that at all. Do I need to post pictures of his Manhattan apartment, Mar a Lago, or other Trump domiciles whose opulence--nay, garishness--would make Louis XIV blush?
                    It seems people don't really care what Drumpf does with his own money... That just gives the image of a successful businessman. What they do care about is what he is doing with the people's money. For example:

                    Trump's Leaner White House Payroll Projected To Save Taxpayers $22 Million

                    Trump: An hour of negotiations saved more than $1 billion on Air Force One

                    Trump Donates First-Quarter Salary to National Park Service

                    On the other hand, members of the democratic party are upset with the image that the former president is giving. It doesn't matter if Obama is spending his "own" money (how did Obama become worth $40mil anyway?) or the pension money the people give him. The optics looks bad.

                    If liberals don't wake up this all could lead to their worst nightmare...

                    'Your worst nightmare: a successful Donald Trump presidency'
                    [...]
                    But politics, after all, is often a battle of perceptions. Niall Ferguson, a British historian and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution in Stanford, California, said in May: “I think one of the things Guardian readers, and their counterparts on the American coasts, don’t want to think about is the possibility that despite his obvious ineptitude, Trump might actually be successful.


                    “I said last summer to a bunch of liberal friends: ‘Your worst nightmare is not a Trump presidency; it’s a successful Trump presidency.’ The successful Trump presidency scenario is one in which, despite it all, the economy does better thanks to deregulation and tax cuts, foreign policy delivers some big wins on North Korea, the Middle East.

                    “It doesn’t take an awful lot for a president to start looking good. If the expectations start really low, which they have done, it may be one win, and I definitely don’t rule out a kind of ‘success in spite of himself’ scenario. And then you begin to wonder if a left-of-Clinton Democrat in 2020 would be blown away. We’ll see. The fun thing about doing history is you really can’t tell at this point which way it will go. It could quite easily go Jimmy Carter and he could be a lame duck.”
                    [..]
                    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...office-twitter

                    You liberals need to get your sh*t together! Start by reforming the DNC.
                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • so is tnr fake news now?

                      http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...zezinski-tweet
                      Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                      • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                        It seems people don't really care what Drumpf does with his own money... That just gives the image of a successful businessman. What they do care about is what he is doing with the people's money. For example:

                        Trump's Leaner White House Payroll Projected To Save Taxpayers $22 Million

                        Trump: An hour of negotiations saved more than $1 billion on Air Force One

                        Trump Donates First-Quarter Salary to National Park Service

                        On the other hand, members of the democratic party are upset with the image that the former president is giving. It doesn't matter if Obama is spending his "own" money (how did Obama become worth $40mil anyway?) or the pension money the people give him. The optics looks bad.

                        If liberals don't wake up this all could lead to their worst nightmare...


                        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...office-twitter

                        You liberals need to get your sh*t together! Start by reforming the DNC.
                        got to pay for the privilege of spending eight years' worth of obama travel costs on vacations to mar-a-lago in the first year of his presidency somehow
                        Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                        • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                          That was a great column.

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                          • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                            The National Review was anti-Trump before it was the new conservative cool, as I recall. Sadly, it doesn't have the exposure of CNN or other Fake News for him to notice or tweet about it.
                            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                            - SeattleUte

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                            • I think the CNN WWF stuff was dumb. I also think Trump is WAY too easy to bait into reacting to dumb things. As someone who likes to go for reactions myself when teasing my kids - I've got to admit that if I were involved in politics at all and in a position to have him pay attention to me, I would enjoy getting reactions from him. He just can't help it.

                              I frankly don't remember where - but I read or heard somewhere today that this CNN WWF thing is actually very clever of him. Because the WWF is fake, and he's been saying that CNN is a purveyor of fake news, so it's all part of the joke of fake violence on a fake news outlet.

                              Yeah...um...I don't think Trump is clever enough to have come up with an allegory like that for his tweeting. I think it's more of him feeling like he's fighting and taking down CNN. And he doesn't have a problem with violence or representations of violence.

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                              • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                                It seems people don't really care what Drumpf does with his own money... That just gives the image of a successful businessman. What they do care about is what he is doing with the people's money. For example:

                                Trump's Leaner White House Payroll Projected To Save Taxpayers $22 Million

                                Trump: An hour of negotiations saved more than $1 billion on Air Force One

                                Trump Donates First-Quarter Salary to National Park Service

                                On the other hand, members of the democratic party are upset with the image that the former president is giving. It doesn't matter if Obama is spending his "own" money (how did Obama become worth $40mil anyway?) or the pension money the people give him. The optics looks bad.

                                If liberals don't wake up this all could lead to their worst nightmare...


                                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...office-twitter

                                You liberals need to get your sh*t together! Start by reforming the DNC.
                                I assume the "you liberals" was intended for third parties, not me, although you were responding to my earlier post. FTR, I have voted Republican in presidential elections all but twice since 1972. I tend to side with George Will and NR in my dislike for Trump.

                                And those cost-saving things you mentioned are good, but dubious. Many question the $1 Billion savings on Air Force One.


                                But Richard Aboulafia, vice president of analysis at the Teal Group, was less optimistic that Trump's claims meant true savings. He said the budget for the program originally was about $3 billion, but Trump criticized it as a $4 billion program previously on Twitter.

                                "That was a fabrication. Then when he was told, it's a $2.7-2.9 billion program, he said I just saved a billion dollars," Aboulafia said. "I'm embarrassed there are people who believe this."
                                Is he covering the cost of Secret Service protection for his sons as they go around the world promoting the Trump brand? I honestly don't know, but it's evident that the spike in value of his personal holdings as a result of his presidency dwarfs superficially selfless measures like giving three-months of salary to the NPS.

                                The NR piece OG posted was good, esp. its rips on Sean Hannity, "the self-abasing monkey-butler of the Trump regime."

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