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  • Maximus
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 6000

    #21856
    Lmao

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    • LVAllen
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 3218

      #21857
      Originally posted by Shaka View Post
      Play the work the Google machine. You’re talking about parts per million it’s a very large pool.
      It is a very large pool. And if the pool was deep, or the peroxide had been distributed evenly, you would not expect much, if any, damage. Neither are the case.

      The peroxide was added directly into the edges of a shallow pool, where it promptly sank to the bottom, mostly still at 12% concentration (120,000 parts per million), and hit the liner. At 12% concentration, it can absolutely cause delamination.

      When you add chemicals to a swimming pool that have the possibility of damaging a liner, it is absolutely essential that they are added in front of a pool return, or in some other manner that prevents the chemical from just sitting there. The return flow immediately distributes and dilutes the chemicals so they never hit a susceptible material at full-strength. By design, the reflecting pool doesn't have plumbing that could create surface ripples.

      It's also possible that the no-bid contractor did scrappy prepwork.

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      • Shaka
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 10434

        #21858
        Originally posted by LVAllen View Post

        It is a very large pool. And if the pool was deep, or the peroxide had been distributed evenly, you would not expect much, if any, damage. Neither are the case.

        The peroxide was added directly into the edges of a shallow pool, where it promptly sank to the bottom, mostly still at 12% concentration (120,000 parts per million), and hit the liner. At 12% concentration, it can absolutely cause delamination.

        When you add chemicals to a swimming pool that have the possibility of damaging a liner, it is absolutely essential that they are added in front of a pool return, or in some other manner that prevents the chemical from just sitting there. The return flow immediately distributes and dilutes the chemicals so they never hit a susceptible material at full-strength. By design, the reflecting pool doesn't have plumbing that could create surface ripples.

        It's also possible that the no-bid contractor did scrappy prepwork.
        That water is circulating. There's no way it's sitting at a 12% concentration. It would also take a decent amount of time to damage poly. I used to shock my old hot tub that I refurbished with a solution that was heavy on hydrogen peroxide. It would have been a much higher concentration than what existed in the reflection pool.

        I'm not buying the hydrogen peroxide argument. I doubt anyone who sells or works with industrial coatings would either.

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        • LVAllen
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 3218

          #21859
          Originally posted by Shaka View Post

          That water is circulating. There's no way it's sitting at a 12% concentration. It would also take a decent amount of time to damage poly. I used to shock my old hot tub that I refurbished with a solution that was heavy on hydrogen peroxide. It would have been a much higher concentration than what existed in the reflection pool.

          I'm not buying the hydrogen peroxide argument. I doubt anyone who sells or works with industrial coatings would either.
          I'm not saying the reflecting pool as a whole was at 12%. Even to get 30 ppm, you were looking at around 8,000 liters of peroxide to do that. I'm saying that locally, in the spots they poured the peroxide, there was very little circulation because the pool is designed not to have a lot of circulation. The water is filtered and treated away from the pool itself, and introduced in a manner that avoids a lot of active circulation in the reflecting pool, because the point of the pool is to have a still surface. The peroxide they added would have diluted slowly. Those spots would have relatively high ppms of peroxide compared to areas farther away from the introduction. And the spots where they introduced it were only 18 inches deep. And they kept adding bottle of peroxide in the same spot, increasing the ppm of peroxide in that spot and compounding the issue.

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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69422

            #21860
            This whole thing is really funny to me. What a clown show.
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • dabrockster
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 10861

              #21861
              Originally posted by Maximus View Post
              So he hired retired Jerry Seinfeld Father for the job?? lol

              in all seriousness. After reading Shaka’s post on this, it seems to be more related to the work of this guy. And seeing this pop-up makes me even more convinced.

              This no-bid contracts to fill the pockets of his buddies pisses me off. He should be skewered for this and I hope more investigative journalism is done in this area to reveal this shit.

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              • frank ryan
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 12257

                #21862
                Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                Can't make this shit. That guy was convicted of bribing a member of congress. He's a conman. Of course he did a shitty job with that pool.

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                • PaloAltoCougar
                  Semper infra dignitatem
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 16912

                  #21863
                  Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                  Can't make this shit. That guy was convicted of bribing a member of congress. He's a conman. Of course he did a shitty job with that pool.
                  He looks like an actor in an SCTV comedy sketch about a sleazebag; John Candy could have played him. At least his company, Greenwater Services, can't be sued for false advertising.

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                  • Northwestcoug
                    Cocked and Loaded
                    • May 2011
                    • 17895

                    #21864
                    Since the Trump admin was the latest in Tulsi Gabbard’s long strange political arc I suppose this thread is the best place to drop this insanity.

                    what if I were to tell you that Gabbard’s national political career was closely monitored and guided by a recluse hindu cult leader and his minions? Would some of her weird political evolution make more sense? Well, read the receipts:

                    I obtained hundreds of confidential memos detailing politics and policy guidance for Gabbard from her years in Congress, then embarked on a quest to identify who was behind them.


                    weren’t Walter and a couple of others here big Tulsi fans? I wonder if they’d like to rethink that support since it seems that some of her policies and party affiliations came as directives from a cult leader.
                    "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                    "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                    - SeattleUte

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                    • Pelado
                      Bald not naked
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 21072

                      #21865
                      Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                      Since the Trump admin was the latest in Tulsi Gabbard’s long strange political arc I suppose this thread is the best place to drop this insanity.

                      what if I were to tell you that Gabbard’s national political career was closely monitored and guided by a recluse hindu cult leader and his minions? Would some of her weird political evolution make more sense? Well, read the receipts:

                      I obtained hundreds of confidential memos detailing politics and policy guidance for Gabbard from her years in Congress, then embarked on a quest to identify who was behind them.


                      weren’t Walter and a couple of others here big Tulsi fans? I wonder if they’d like to rethink that support since it seems that some of her policies and party affiliations came as directives from a cult leader.
                      We discussed her cult affiliation during her campaign for president.
                      "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                      - Goatnapper'96

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                      • frank ryan
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12257

                        #21866
                        Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                        We discussed her cult affiliation during her campaign for president.
                        Yeah, I remember that but it's worth revisiting. It's pretty interesting.

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                        • Northwestcoug
                          Cocked and Loaded
                          • May 2011
                          • 17895

                          #21867
                          Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                          We discussed her cult affiliation during her campaign for president.
                          But the evidence that her policy pronouncements were directed by the cult leader is new info isn’t it? If not I missed it.
                          "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                          "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                          - SeattleUte

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                          • Jeff Lebowski
                            Corporate lackey for Jesus
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 69422

                            #21868
                            Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                            But the evidence that her policy pronouncements were directed by the cult leader is new info isn’t it? If not I missed it.
                            New to me
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • frank ryan
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 12257

                              #21869
                              Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                              But the evidence that her policy pronouncements were directed by the cult leader is new info isn’t it? If not I missed it.
                              It's a lot more concerning than how it was framed when it came up before. But there are definitely Tulsi fans here. I remember pushback when I said she was playing a grifting game and was helpful the right.

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                              • Pelado
                                Bald not naked
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 21072

                                #21870
                                Just read the article. Definitely looks like she was doing his bidding.
                                "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                                - Goatnapper'96

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