President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[frank ryan]

I stunned the Pentagon is in such disarray. The social media all star cabinet is amazing.
I heard RFK backed away from wanting a registry for autistic people. He is a true visionary

[BigPiney]

The Trump government trying to find out where the Jews are:

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/columbia-barnard-staff-receive-eeoc-texts-in-antisemitism-probe

[frank ryan]

I think up on Viktor Orban and how Hungary is today, could help people understand our shitty government right now. That's been a partial template for this kind of authoritarian.

[BlueK]

This won't go over well with Americans -- empty store shelves:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/economics/product-shortages-empty-store-shelves-loom-falling-shipments-china-rcna202812

[Bo Diddley]

This won't go over well with Americans -- empty store shelves:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/eco...ina-rcna202812

Let the hoarding begin!

[myboynoah]

She broke the law (as far as I can tell). I don't care for all these ICE roundups and lurking; a little too close to fascism IMO, but she broke the law.

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[frank ryan]

She broke the law (as far as I can tell). I don't care for all these ICE roundups and lurking; a little too close to fascism IMO, but she broke the law.

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That is fascism. Will centrists finally break the glass around that word and use it?

MAGA has indicated they would do these things. Now they are doing them. It's at a more rapid pace than I expected.

It's been in the DNA of this movement: Bannon, Miller, Roger Stone. This is what authoritarianism looks like.

[falafel]

That is fascism. Will centrists finally break the glass around that word and use it?

MAGA has indicated they would do these things. Now they are doing them. It's at a more rapid pace than I expected.

It's been in the DNA of this movement: Bannon, Miller, Roger Stone. This is what authoritarianism looks like.

Well, hold on. Let's get the rest of the facts out. She could have seriously broken the law. We don't need people going rogue either.

[frank ryan]

Well, hold on. Let's get the rest of the facts out. She could have seriously broken the law. We don't need people going rogue either.

Even if this has merit, there are plenty of other actions that qualify for having an abhorrent reaction.


Disobeying court orders to return a legal resident to the county from a horrific prison should inspire this kind of concern.

They are talking about sending US citizens to El Salvador to essentially disappear and torture them. If they do that what then?

[Jeff Lebowski]

That is fascism. Will centrists finally break the glass around that word and use it?

MAGA has indicated they would do these things. Now they are doing them. It's at a more rapid pace than I expected.

It's been in the DNA of this movement: Bannon, Miller, Roger Stone. This is what authoritarianism looks like.

You know, that fascism label has more credibility if you apply it to legitimate cases of fascism. There are plenty of those so why trot it out at everything you see?

[falafel]

Even if this has merit, there are plenty of other actions that qualify for having an abhorrent reaction.


Disobeying court orders to return a legal resident to the county from a horrific prison should inspire this kind of concern.

They are talking about sending US citizens to El Salvador to essentially disappear and torture them. If they do that what then?

Ehhhh, you are changing the argument here. We aren't talking about "plenty of other actions" and we aren't talking the hypothetical situation where US citizens are "disappeared" to El Salvador. Let's stick to he facts of this specific issue.

From CNN:

Dugan’s criminal complaint accuses the judge of becoming “visibly angry” after learning immigration officers were outside her court room intending to arrest a man whose case she was overseeing, and then directing the man through a non-public “jury door” to avoid his detention.

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Flores-Ruiz, a Mexican immigrant, had been issued an order of removal from the United States in 2013 and was removed from the country through Arizona. Immigration officials learned he was back in the country illegally after his fingerprints and photographs were taken after his recent arrest and compared to his alien registration file.

The immigration officers, who were “generally dressed in plain clothes,” according tot he complaint, arrived at a Milwaukee courthouse last Friday, showed a security guard their identification and said they were at the courthouse to make an arrest. The officers also spoke with a shift supervisor at the Milwaukee County Sheriff’s Office, who told them to wait until after Flores-Ruiz’s hearing to conclude before they arrested him, the complaint said.

While the officers were waiting outside the courtroom, a woman who was later identified as an employee with the Wisconsin Public Defender’s Office took their picture, court records show. A courtroom deputy later told the officers that the woman approached Dugan’s bench, told her ICE agents were outside her courtroom, and showed the judge the picture she just took.

Dugan and another judge then approached the officers in the hallway. The document said witnesses reported Dugan, who had a “confrontational, angry demeanor,” demanded the agents leave the courthouse.

Agents told the judge they were there to “effectuate an arrest” and showed her an administrative warrant. Dugan told them to speak with the chief judge and led some members of the arrest team away from her courtroom. Several witnesses – including the judge’s courtroom deputy and both the prosecutor and the victim witness specialist on Flores-Ruiz’s case – recounted seeing Dugan, once she had returned to her courtroom, direct Flores-Ruiz and his attorney to leave through a “jury door,” which leads to a nonpublic area of the courthouse, court documents say.

Agents later noticed Flores-Ruiz and his attorney walking “briskly” toward an elevator bank. They exited the building while agents “scrambled” to catch up to them, according to the court document. Agents found Flores-Ruiz outside the courthouse and identified themselves. He took off running but was eventually captured.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/25/politics/fbi-director-wisconsin-judge-arrested/index.html

This doesn't sound like she is "fighting the good fight." This guy had been deported once in 2013, he came back and was in court on domestic battery charges. ICE learned he was back and did their job.

I do not think this is the kind of reaction by court officials that we want to encourage or champion. We need both sides of the law to play it straight down the middle.

[Copelius]

Reading the complaint, this judge has no business ever sitting on the bench again.

[frank ryan]

You know, that fascism label has more credibility if you apply it to legitimate cases of fascism. There are plenty of those so why trot it out at everything you see?

Jeff, you don't have to agree with, but the label increasingly applies. And it's not everything I see.

Maybe we talk about what that term means.

[LVAllen]

The claim is that they had an administrative warrant, not a judicial warrant. Also, that the "non public" hallway exited to the public portion of the 6th floor. ICE an the FBI can go straight to hell on this one.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Jeff, you don't have to agree with, but the label increasingly applies. And it's not everything I see.

Maybe we talk about what that term means.

But it doesn't appear to apply here. That is the point.