President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[Maximus]

This is why I think it is dumb to get caught up with things like whether something is a Nazi salute or not.
These things are meant to distract and while significant if it truly is a dog whistle, the opposition has to truly pick their battles here if they want to have any credible pushback. If they throw a fit for everything, the public, in general, is going to tire on the whole thing. To a great extent, they already have. Any opposition to trump needs to be laser focused.

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[LVAllen]

Exactly. If you are obsessed about the "nazi salute", it is hard to take you seriously on real issues.

Republicans went off on bullshit and unserious culture wars for a decade, and now they are in power and doing everything they can to enforce the culture wars, it's the opposition's fault for not being focused enough.

Everything is a liberal/moderate's fault. Got it.

Laser focus is a mistake. For every one of Lebowski's type who get annoyed at all the bullshit being flung against the wall, there are 20 more who happily let it stick. A laser focus convinces the one, and the other 20 go on to vote based on bullshit that wasn't immediately addressed.

[Maximus]

but why

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[Northwestcoug]

So happy for PAC!

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I for one am against California getting the unlimited PNW water that's rightfully mine!

[LVAllen]

but why

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Because incentivizing TSMC to make a $65 billion investment in Arizona is woke. Or something. They need to be punished for not building factories in America, and we can't do that if we're rewarding them for building factories in America.

[Bo Diddley]

I for one am against California getting the unlimited PNW water that's rightfully mine!

Sad!

[Copelius]

I for one am against California getting the unlimited PNW water that's rightfully mine!

Aren't you a Canadian now?

[beefytee]

Republicans went off on bullshit and unserious culture wars for a decade, and now they are in power and doing everything they can to enforce the culture wars, it's the opposition's fault for not being focused enough.

Everything is a liberal/moderate's fault. Got it.

Laser focus is a mistake. For every one of Lebowski's type who get annoyed at all the bullshit being flung against the wall, there are 20 more who happily let it stick. A laser focus convinces the one, and the other 20 go on to vote based on bullshit that wasn't immediately addressed.

Whatever the opposition/Democrats are doing now obviously isn't working.

I'm not blaming them for how bad Trump is. I wish there was a credible group who could competently offer an acceptable alternative that the general public would accept.

There is no way Trump ever should have been re-elected.

The problem is all the distractions, and the opposition is playing right into those distractions. Those items may matter, but they don't matter to the general public unfortunately.

The messages need to be about the items that are going to negatively impact the constituents as directly as possible. And that connection needs to be highlighted.

Please explain to me how your life is going to be directly impacted by the Elon Musk's actions at that rally? The message is likely lots of speculation that is unconvincing to the general electorate.

But there are so many examples where Trumps policies are going to directly and generally hurt American citizens, our allies, and people around the world, etc.

There absolutely needs to be focus. The distractions need to be minimized so the effective message gets through.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Identifying it as a Nazi salut is not the same thing as being obsessed. That's a fallacious statement, and shows a lack of sensitivity for what the salut represents. The inability to understand the sensitive nature of the gesture and to minimize it as trolling or awkward behaviour is alarming.

Do we continue to let public discourse descend to those depths, or do we acknowledge it for what it is and demand better? It is not obsessive, or unreasonable to expect someone as overtly political as Musk to be better, in language, gesture and action.

Lack of sensitivity. Ha. There is that sanctimony again.

[dabrockster]

Looks like we should have deported these shitheads, or at least kept them in jail.

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Is it bad that I felt not a single ounce of empathy for his fate.

[myboynoah]

Is it bad that I felt not a single ounce of empathy for his fate.

[PaloAltoCougar]

So happy for PAC!

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Like so many of Trump's declarations, this is total nonsense. As much as we'd welcome it, there is no river, canal, pipe, or conduit bringing water from the PNW to California. Among other problems, there are those pesky Klamath Mountains standing in the way. Trump loves to make up crap that makes it sound like he's doing great stuff and the knucklehead members of MAGA high five each other over such nonsense.

[myboynoah]

Whatever the opposition/Democrats are doing now obviously isn't working.

I'm not blaming them for how bad Trump is. I wish there was a credible group who could competently offer an acceptable alternative that the general public would accept.

There is no way Trump ever should have been re-elected.

The problem is all the distractions, and the opposition is playing right into those distractions. Those items may matter, but they don't matter to the general public unfortunately.

The messages need to be about the items that are going to negatively impact the constituents as directly as possible. And that connection needs to be highlighted.

Please explain to me how your life is going to be directly impacted by the Elon Musk's actions at that rally? The message is likely lots of speculation that is unconvincing to the general electorate.

But there are so many examples where Trumps policies are going to directly and generally hurt American citizens, our allies, and people around the world, etc.

There absolutely needs to be focus. The distractions need to be minimized so the effective message gets through.

Preach brother!

So, where should the focus be? How does the opposition highlight the negative impacts? And is there an audience willing to listen?

This tweet is instructive. No workers in a development, no construction getting done. The tweeter assumes it's because the workers are in hiding, avoiding ICE. The negative impact is obvious: people's homes are not getting built, delayed inventory in the market, pressure on rising prices as a result. But look at the comments. People are happy. "Way to go Trump!" "Let the fired DEI workers do this work!" MAGA appears to want chaos for some reason.

The real consequences won't be realized by these people for some time. By that time they'll be on to some other fantasy.

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[myboynoah]

Yeah, but . . . . .

The guy is a nut.

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[Northwestcoug]

Aren't you a Canadian now?

I'll still be in the PNW, though separated by salt water. Still, I don't want those Californians having any of mine!