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  • tooblue
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 5097

    #15286
    Originally posted by YOhio View Post

    So now that we've established that Trump wouldn't be hired as an educator or an entry-level intel analyst, it begs the question of why it matters. I like to think character matters, but I don't know that it has a direct bearing on how effective an individual will perform as president. It should, but I think there's a strong argument that it doesn't. At least in modern history. In my lifetime Carter had the strongest character, but was an awful president.
    It does matter. Trump is also a former president, and his character flaws resulted in an ineffective presidency culminating in the January 6 storming of the US capital. But oh well. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

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    • YOhio
      Hipster Mode
      • Nov 2008
      • 26165

      #15287
      Originally posted by tooblue View Post

      It does matter. Trump is also a former president, and his character flaws resulted in an ineffective presidency culminating in the January 6 storming of the US capital. But oh well. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
      I agree that it matters, but I think we should all acknowledge that every vote requires a compromise on this issue. I don't agree that it was an ineffective presidency. It was certainly chaotic and likely could have been more effective, but it wasn't without accomplishment as he would define it. Without endorsement, a few things stand out:

      1- Judicial appointments
      2- His administration was the first to require audits of the Pentagon, which is why they've only failed 7 in a row
      3- The 2018 National Defense Strategy signaled a huge shift from the GWOT to great power competition, specifically naming Russia and China. Subsequent versions have been iterative.
      4- First Step Act
      5- No new wars

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      • Donuthole
        Official Outgayer
        • Nov 2008
        • 25221

        #15288
        Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
        The mother of his children was buried at one of his golf course's, supposedly for a tax benefit. That is not something a healthy and ethical person would do.

        You are one of the better people around and I think you're looking for Trump's humanity speaks of your better nature, but I think it's ok to see the person he has consistently shown us he is. He's comically unaware of certain things. But he has lived with being immune from the benefits and impacts of criticism. There was a golfer or someone who shared an anecdote about Trump cheating at gold because he said he basically expects everyone to. He thinks cheating is part of the game.


        His reputation and personality issues weren't controversial before he became a political figure. I believe he has bragged in the past about revenge being important to him. I get people have fatigue about liberals or never Trumpers bringing up his faults repeatedly, and I know I can be one of those people, he gets flack for things he does and doesn't do.

        Theo Von is genuinely a really good dude. I've heard some cool things about him from people in recovery.

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        https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-chec...213300066.html
        Yes, I think he rapped about that once

        Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

        There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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        • Maximus
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 5997

          #15289
          Originally posted by YOhio View Post

          I agree that it matters, but I think we should all acknowledge that every vote requires a compromise on this issue. I don't agree that it was an ineffective presidency. It was certainly chaotic and likely could have been more effective, but it wasn't without accomplishment as he would define it. Without endorsement, a few things stand out:

          1- Judicial appointments
          2- His administration was the first to require audits of the Pentagon, which is why they've only failed 7 in a row
          3- The 2018 National Defense Strategy signaled a huge shift from the GWOT to great power competition, specifically naming Russia and China. Subsequent versions have been iterative.
          4- First Step Act
          5- No new wars
          which world situations under trump wouldve resulted in a new war under other presidents?

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          • frank ryan
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 12257

            #15290
            Originally posted by Donuthole View Post

            Yes, I think he rapped about that once

            https://www.cougarstadium.com/forum/...77#post2330177
            Oh, that was I typo, I meant raping not rapping.

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            • Shaka
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 10432

              #15291
              Originally posted by YOhio View Post

              Why would these guys read a book by Donald Trump Jr? They already know his sociopath dad didn't love him, he's lying, he's not well-adjusted, and didn't write the book anyways.
              What's funny is I read Becoming Michelle Obama right before Don Jr's book. I guess some of us are willing to give both sides a shot.

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              • Shaka
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 10432

                #15292
                Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                Question for Shaka or the many others on this board who have read the collected works of Don Jr.: Which of Donnie's two books, Triggered or Liberal Privilege, includes details of how he was raised? I''ll read one book but I have my limits.
                Triggered is the one that discusses his childhood. Topics include spending summers in Czechoslovakia, how much money he received from dad growing up, and his college years including time in Colorado, and working at construction sites.

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                • YOhio
                  Hipster Mode
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 26165

                  #15293
                  Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                  What's funny is I read Becoming Michelle Obama right before Don Jr's book. I guess some of us are willing to give both sides a shot.
                  I think back to when Michelle Obama tried to roll out her Let's Move, healthy eating initiative and effort to address food deserts in underserved communities. The GOP freaked out and tried to label her as some kind of totalitarian food nanny. I'm sure that was my thought at the time as well. In retrospect she was on to something important. Of course the food industry got involved, making ketchup a vegetable and turning school cafeterias into reheating stations. Now the GOP is all MAHA and taking big portions of her playbook.

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                  • falafel
                    loves to talk on things
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 37836

                    #15294
                    Originally posted by YOhio View Post

                    I think back to when Michelle Obama tried to roll out her Let's Move, healthy eating initiative and effort to address food deserts in underserved communities. The GOP freaked out and tried to label her as some kind of totalitarian food nanny. I'm sure that was my thought at the time as well. In retrospect she was on to something important. Of course the food industry got involved, making ketchup a vegetable and turning school cafeterias into reheating stations. Now the GOP is all MAHA and taking big portions of her playbook.
                    That's a a new one.

                    I like the idea that you would react against her tirade in favor or healthy foods. I prefer the "eat cake" diet myself, even if I don't eat cake.
                    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                    Dig your own grave, and save!

                    "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

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                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • frank ryan
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 12257

                      #15295
                      Originally posted by YOhio View Post

                      I think back to when Michelle Obama tried to roll out her Let's Move, healthy eating initiative and effort to address food deserts in underserved communities. The GOP freaked out and tried to label her as some kind of totalitarian food nanny. I'm sure that was my thought at the time as well. In retrospect she was on to something important. Of course the food industry got involved, making ketchup a vegetable and turning school cafeterias into reheating stations. Now the GOP is all MAHA and taking big portions of her playbook.
                      That's the part of "MAHA," that makes sense but the minuses outweigh any pluses.
                      RFK JR promotes disprovable conspiracy theories not the guy we want anywhere near our food safety or drug qc agencies.

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                      • Maximus
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5997

                        #15296
                        He's going to ask for Greenland again isn't he

                        "Trump wants panama canal if they dont cut fees"

                        https://www.axios.com/2024/12/22/tru...a-canal-return

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                        • LVAllen
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 3213

                          #15297
                          It seems like VP Trump is getting angry at all the talk about the legislative work President Musky is doing. Do we need a President Musky thread?

                          Trump: [Ol' Musky] is not going to be president. That I can tell you. I’m safe. You know why? He can’t be. He wasn’t born in this country

                          https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.s.../3ldw2c76xre23

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                          • BlueK
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 7112

                            #15298
                            Originally posted by LVAllen View Post
                            It seems like VP Trump is getting angry at all the talk about the legislative work President Musky is doing. Do we need a President Musky thread?

                            Trump: [Ol' Musky] is not going to be president. That I can tell you. I’m safe. You know why? He can’t be. He wasn’t born in this country

                            https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.s.../3ldw2c76xre23
                            Come on Trump, deport him!

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                            • LVAllen
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 3213

                              #15299
                              Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                              He's going to ask for Greenland again isn't he

                              "Trump wants panama canal if they dont cut fees"

                              https://www.axios.com/2024/12/22/tru...a-canal-return
                              Yes, he just did.

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                              • Northwestcoug
                                Cocked and Loaded
                                • May 2011
                                • 17885

                                #15300
                                So who is the advisor whispering in Trump’s ear that we need to forcefully take Panama Canal and Greenland? Cat turd?
                                "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                                "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
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