President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[myboynoah]

Supreme Court Gets a Rare Rebuke, in Front of a Nation

[BlueK]

I will tell you honestly how scared you guys have gotten me. I thought for sure Trump would ignore the court order and tell the federal employees to do what he told them.

At what point do you guys think he will. Will he wait until after the Supreme Court decision?

you lost me at "honestly."

[byu71]

you lost me at "honestly."

Doesn't matter. You wouldn't have gotten the point anyway it doesn't fit your picture of how it is.

[Topper]

Supreme Court Gets a Rare Rebuke, in Front of a Nation

Good read. I can only imagine the rebuke coming from Trump when a decisions is made that he doesn't like.

[Eddie]

...Another thing is that these refugees from Syria are mostly just regular folks running from terrorists, not trying to sneak into the U.S. The great majority of those fleeing Syria are taken in by neighboring countries. The U.S. gets something like only 5% (I think the number may be even lower, not sure) of those Syrian refugees. These are doctors, school teachers, engineers, etc. They aren't just sitting around when they get here, although I can't back that up right now outside of anecdotal evidence....

In speaking of refugees as as whole, (and including undocumented, as well as document immigrants immigrants for that matter) I agree that most are just "regular folks". I'm not sure on the contributing aspect of things. I think that there is potential for them to contribute - and I believe that most of the professional-type folks probably find a way to do that. But the blue-collar workers, I believe, struggle more.

I've got a guy in my neighborhood who was an accountant in Colombia. But he didn't want to have to go back to school when he got here to get a degree in the US, so now he works in sales. The gal who cleans our offices a teacher in Mexico, but didn't want to have to get a degree to teach here. And I know another person who was a nurse in Venezuela, but couldn't get a job in nursing without going back to school, so she works at a restaurant now.

The motivated people will find something to do to support themselves. Unfortunately, we apparently make it difficult to let them be professionals. It's the uneducated non-professionals who I worry more about. And probably more the 2nd generation than the immigrants themselves.

[byu71]

Good read. I can only imagine the rebuke coming from Trump when a decisions is made that he doesn't like.

It is our system, just like the electoral college is our system. Whatever the courts decide on Trumps executive decision, I may not agree with it but I am not going to then claim the whole system has gone in the toilet. I think I heard 2/3 of federal judges are democrats. I don't like that, but elections have consequences.

[Commando]

Supreme Court Gets a Rare Rebuke, in Front of a Nation

Yeah I can't believe the level of civility we've been spoiled with! This really draws the contrast pretty sharply.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Supreme Court Gets a Rare Rebuke, in Front of a Nation

Obama's remarks, which came to my mind immediately when I read Trump's latest tweet tirade, were among the most unfortunate of BHO's presidency. They, in turn, reminded me of FDR's rips on the judiciary during his court-packing phase. But I think what Trump/Bannon is saying is so much worse, including blaming an individual judge, in advance, for any physical harm that may be done in the future, and thereby placing that judge in jeopardy himself. Even ignoring his other stupid statements like "people pouring in," Trump's comment seems incendiary and far beneath the dignity of the office with which he has been entrusted. Am I losing all objectivity here?

[Northwestcoug]

Obama's remarks, which came to my mind immediately when I read Trump's latest tweet tirade, were among the most unfortunate of BHO's presidency. They, in turn, reminded me of FDR's rips on the judiciary during his court-packing phase. But I think what Trump/Bannon is saying is so much worse, including blaming an individual judge, in advance, for any physical harm that may be done in the future, and thereby placing that judge in jeopardy himself. Even ignoring his other stupid statements like "people pouring in," Trump's comment seems incendiary and far beneath the dignity of the office with which he has been entrusted. Am I losing all objectivity here?

No. This was pretty bad, even by his standards.

[Blueintheface]

Obama's remarks, which came to my mind immediately when I read Trump's latest tweet tirade, were among the most unfortunate of BHO's presidency. They, in turn, reminded me of FDR's rips on the judiciary during his court-packing phase. But I think what Trump/Bannon is saying is so much worse, including blaming an individual judge, in advance, for any physical harm that may be done in the future, and thereby placing that judge in jeopardy himself. Even ignoring his other stupid statements like "people pouring in," Trump's comment seems incendiary and far beneath the dignity of the office with which he has been entrusted. Am I losing all objectivity here?

Ha! Not at all. By ANY rational measure your take is spot on.

[Topper]

Obama's remarks, which came to my mind immediately when I read Trump's latest tweet tirade, were among the most unfortunate of BHO's presidency. They, in turn, reminded me of FDR's rips on the judiciary during his court-packing phase. But I think what Trump/Bannon is saying is so much worse, including blaming an individual judge, in advance, for any physical harm that may be done in the future, and thereby placing that judge in jeopardy himself. Even ignoring his other stupid statements like "people pouring in," Trump's comment seems incendiary and far beneath the dignity of the office with which he has been entrusted. Am I losing all objectivity here?

Our form of government survives and thrives because of the division and counter-balancing of powers among the three branches. To threaten the power of the judiciary by attacking undermines our fundamental constitution as a nation. In this respect, Trump and Bannon are very harmful to our country.

Here is a very good piece identifying some of the issues from the BBC.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38881119

[creekster]

Obama's remarks, which came to my mind immediately when I read Trump's latest tweet tirade, were among the most unfortunate of BHO's presidency. They, in turn, reminded me of FDR's rips on the judiciary during his court-packing phase. But I think what Trump/Bannon is saying is so much worse, including blaming an individual judge, in advance, for any physical harm that may be done in the future, and thereby placing that judge in jeopardy himself. Even ignoring his other stupid statements like "people pouring in," Trump's comment seems incendiary and far beneath the dignity of the office with which he has been entrusted. Am I losing all objectivity here?

No, Trump is as bad or worse than even many of his detractors feared. I listened to the excerpt from his O'Reilly interview at lunch where he minimized the difference between the US and Putin. Shocking for its inaccuracy but also for the lack of clear thinking behind it. He is in a position to affect events spanning the globe just by his comment and he is treating it like he is a used car salesman: Let's make a deal! Will he bargain? Then he's a good guy! Hey, we are ALL killers.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Obama's remarks, which came to my mind immediately when I read Trump's latest tweet tirade, were among the most unfortunate of BHO's presidency. They, in turn, reminded me of FDR's rips on the judiciary during his court-packing phase. But I think what Trump/Bannon is saying is so much worse, including blaming an individual judge, in advance, for any physical harm that may be done in the future, and thereby placing that judge in jeopardy himself. Even ignoring his other stupid statements like "people pouring in," Trump's comment seems incendiary and far beneath the dignity of the office with which he has been entrusted. Am I losing all objectivity here?

FDR did far more than "rip" on the judiciary. What he proposed was the greatest threat to the independence of the judiciary in our history. Trump would probably love to have what FDR proposed. Thankfully, FDR failed.

[byu71]

Obama's remarks, which came to my mind immediately when I read Trump's latest tweet tirade, were among the most unfortunate of BHO's presidency. They, in turn, reminded me of FDR's rips on the judiciary during his court-packing phase. But I think what Trump/Bannon is saying is so much worse, including blaming an individual judge, in advance, for any physical harm that may be done in the future, and thereby placing that judge in jeopardy himself. Even ignoring his other stupid statements like "people pouring in," Trump's comment seems incendiary and far beneath the dignity of the office with which he has been entrusted. Am I losing all objectivity here?

Nope. Trump doesn't have any concern for his outages remarks

[Dwight Schr-ute]

If I may add something, I don't think protesters are protesting anything other than the unlawfulness of the orders and the blatant religious test implied here-- we're instituting a new refugee exception from these countries for minority religions, but everybody else is banned. Uhhh.... Trump claims he did it on a friday afternoon as a surprise so that the "bad guys don't flood in w a week's notice" Uhhhh. That is inherently false and stupid. He is cancelling visas, not stopping "bad guys" from coming in. A week's notice would keep the exact people out but be about 1,000% less of an inconvenience, making it so nobody had to be detained and so that families weren't uprooted from airplanes as they are MOVING TO THE U.S. It takes months to apply for, be approved, and finally receive a visa for travel. Is Trump saying the "bad guys" can circumvent this problem and "pour in" if they were given a week's notice? Anyway-- that's a very minor part of the problem.

For me, the blanket ban is based on nothing. No findings of a security lapse, no threat, no precedent of danger, nothing. Therefore, emergency powers don't apply here. He did it cause Trump Says So. And based on his follow-up tweets, that is a big problem. He is online undermining the authority and legitimacy of the Judiciary Branch, referring to the Judge who issued the injunction in Washington state as "the so-called-judge" What a stupid POS.

There are a few simple ways to improve our security, reduce the porousness of the border, and document people who are already here-- none of those things will happen the Trump Way.

It was interesting to me to sit and watch Mike Pence on the Sunday morning cartoons address the issue about "why Christians would be considered for priority screening." He justified this by explaining that there are Christians in some of these countries that are being killed for their beliefs. LOL. No kidding. There's also an ass ton of Muslims in these countries that are getting killed for no reason whatsoever. I'd be curious why Pence thinks all of these other characters are trying to get out of Syria too. I can see him turning these war torn families away at the airport explaining how unfair the Christian has been treated.

Additionally, I think a new curiosity is starting to develop and President Trump won't be happy about it. Fair or not, Steve Bannon is earning a LOT of credit for the moves so far. I can't imagine that Trump is going to be cool with the country looking at him as a puppet that's incapable of the job he's been elected to do. There is going to be some major muscle flexing in the near future to set the record straight that Donald J. Trump is the president. But because he's so unpredictable and impulsive, it will be impossible to foresee if these flexing will be directed at Bannon or outside the White House.