San Bernardino Shooting

[kccougar]

Strange detail.

It was a rental car, due back today.

[myboynoah]

It was a rental car, due back today.

Wonder if they bought the insurance.

[smokymountainrain]

Wonder if they bought the insurance.

ha.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Sorry, but this is just as bad as some of the lefty nonsense. This will not make a dent. No way you get that many people armed and effective at stopping an armed gunman. Trolley Square guy was an off-duty cop.

A lot of guys with concealed weapons permits know how to use their guns. Think of all the ex military guys around.

It won't make a dent in schools or movie theaters, but it obviously made a difference at Trolley Square.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

you don't need "like" after e.g.

I wrote it in passing, who cares.

[Uncle Ted]

Wonder if they bought the insurance.

I am guessing yes... that way they wouldn't be suspected to be terrorists.

[Uncle Ted]

Good grief, I am sick of the idiots who think changing background checks or adding fingerprint locks to guns is the key to stopping mass shooting. No, the only thing that would stop them is repealing the second amendment and confiscating hundreds of millions of guns. Think Clive Bundy standoff X 1,000,000. If you want to push for that, fine. But let's at least have an honest discussion.

Yes, it is all pretty simple for the anti-gun folks: just get the second amendment repealed. That would solve this increase of shootings and murders... wait, gun violence has been on a declined since the '90's?




I am sure that had to do with the assault weapon ban, right?

[cougjunkie]

I wrote it in passing, who cares.

e.g. like old gregg

[Jeff Lebowski]

A lot of guys with concealed weapons permits know how to use their guns. Think of all the ex military guys around.

It won't make a dent in schools or movie theaters, but it obviously made a difference at Trolley Square.

It is the exception rather than the rule. It will always be that way.

[Bo Diddley]

Yes, it is all pretty simple for the anti-gun folks: just get the second amendment repealed. That would solve this increase of shootings and murders... wait, gun violence has been on a declined since the '90's?

I am sure that had to do with the assault weapon ban, right?

I know how graphs can be distorted to misrepresent the truth. So quit trying to trick us.

[Uncle Ted]

I know how graphs can be distorted to misrepresent the truth. So quit trying to trick us.

You must be one of those that my Jedi mind tricks don't work on.

[Drunk Tank]

Sorry, but this is just as bad as some of the lefty nonsense. This will not make a dent. No way you get that many people armed and effective at stopping an armed gunman. Trolley Square guy was an off-duty cop.

I agree with you on this. However, people (at least in California) with a concealed carry permit are usually well trained on how to use the weapon and have to re-qualify with the weapon every year, same as law enforcement. So there is some validity to having more people carry concealed. The problem with carrying is that if by chance you accidentally display your weapon, or someone see's it and reports you, it is a crime. The other issue I see is that regular people (non-leo) who take tactical training and actually learn how to use their weapons effectively are labeled "gun nuts" by most. What constitutes a "gun nut" anyways? Owning multiple firearms? Dressing in camo or tactical gear, being a member of the NRA?

[Blueintheface]

I say we rehash the "gun free zones" argument again. It's been a few weeks, at least.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I agree with you on this. However, people (at least in California) with a concealed carry permit are usually well trained on how to use the weapon and have to re-qualify with the weapon every year, same as law enforcement. So there is some validity to having more people carry concealed. The problem with carrying is that if by chance you accidentally display your weapon, or someone see's it and reports you, it is a crime. The other issue I see is that regular people (non-leo) who take tactical training and actually learn how to use their weapons effectively are labeled "gun nuts" by most. What constitutes a "gun nut" anyways? Owning multiple firearms? Dressing in camo or tactical gear, being a member of the NRA?

I understand the theory. But it is unrealistic to think that we can reasonably fix the problem by arming more people with concealed weapons. There just aren't enough people interested in packing around a lethal weapon 24/7 to make a dent. And at some point, more fully saturating society with handguns might lead to more shootings, accidents, etc.

The fact that we have had so few mass shooting thwarted by concealed carry permit holders illustrates that this is a pipe dream.

The fact of the matter is that if you have unfettered access to lethal weapons, these shootings are going to happen. That is the simple and stark reality.

[Drunk Tank]

Facebook is a cesspool today.

just today?

My wife works for the Regional Center here and they shut down yesterday after the shootings as a precaution and sent all non-essential employees home. The CA Department of Developments Services (the agency in charge of all the regional centers) made the call to do so because there was a report that someone had called in a threat to the San Diego regional center as well. The local news reported on this and some of the comments left by Facebook trolls are just plain stupid. From people calling it an over reaction to shut down, to an excuse to be able to get their Christmas shopping done. Never mind the fact that many of the workers here have friends and colleagues who work at the Inland Regional Center. Makes me sick.