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  • dabrockster
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10929

    #1456
    I am not sure why this surprised me but I found this to be extremely alarming and another example of the influence of Professors on college campuses and the left taking over the minds of our youth to have such a anti-Israel POV. It is astounding to me that people speak of genocide and such atrocities without breaking a sweat to what took place on 10/7th. The amount of justification for such heinous actions is mind-boggling..

    It also a complete waste of time knowing there is state law in place completely against such actions by our universities.


    86% of Ohio University students vote in favor of anti-Israel referendum

    The overwhelming majority of students at Ohio University recently voted in favor of a referendum demanding the school divest from Israel, even though they are not allowed to do that by law.

    The recent news came after anti-Israel and anti-Semitic rhetoric was exposed on the campus, with the university officials allowing students to spread the anti-Israel and pro-Hamas messages while also allowing Jew-hating and Holocaust-supporting podcaster Myron Gaines to visit the campus and spread his beliefs among students.

    The university’s chapter of Students for Justice in Palestine partially drafted the bill and hosted an “Educational Forum” before the vote to sway the opinion of the students by telling them about the university’s alleged “investments into genocide, repressive laws, and the referendum vote,” according to their post on Instagram.

    According to another report by The Post, many left-wing groups, including Amnesty International OU, OU Ohio Student Association, OU Black Panther Party Legacy, Sunrise Athens, OU Young Democratic Socialists of America, OU Publius, Southeast Ohio Jewish Voice for Peace, and OU Faculty and Staff for Justice in Palestine, endorsed the bill.

    However, the alleged victory of the pro-Palestine activists seems pointless, since the law already prohibits divestment related to Israel, according to the school officials.

    Section 9.76 of the Ohio Revised Code specifically says that “a state agency may not enter into or renew a contract with a company for the acquisition or provision of supplies, equipment, or services, or for construction services, unless the contract declares that the company is not boycotting any jurisdiction with whom this state can enjoy open trade, including Israel, and will not do so during the contract period.”

    The overwhelming majority of students at Ohio University recently voted in favor of a referendum demanding the school divest from Israel, even though they are not allowed to do that by law.

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    • tooblue
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 5115

      #1457
      Video I am opening with in my first classes this week:

      Bigger Homes, Better Cars, Longer Lives: The Truth About Today



      I am expecting lol

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      • Jeff Lebowski
        Corporate lackey for Jesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 69603

        #1458
        That is a great video.

        Every time I see someone whine about how much worse things are now financially for young people, I want to scream. Standards were so much different then. Young kids today could absolutely afford what the prior generation had (one car, tiny home, rarely eat out, etc).
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • Bo Diddley
          Senior
          • Jul 2012
          • 18766

          #1459
          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          That is a great video.

          Every time I see someone whine about how much worse things are now financially for young people, I want to scream. Standards were so much different then. Young kids today could absolutely afford what the prior generation had (one car, tiny home, rarely eat out, etc).
          Fair points. I would push back on the housing.

          Today's median homes are simply much larger and nicer. So where are all the affordable homes that our young people should be buying? Governor Cox recognizes this, along with a housing shortage overall, and has been trying to get builders and communities to provide more affordable housing.

          And less access to housing means less access to building wealth. Housing is one of the primary ways middle class have used to build wealth.

          Where do we go from here? Does low fertility, AI and robotics fix all these issues or make them worse.

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          • Northwestcoug
            Cocked and Loaded
            • May 2011
            • 17976

            #1460
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            That is a great video.

            Every time I see someone whine about how much worse things are now financially for young people, I want to scream. Standards were so much different then. Young kids today could absolutely afford what the prior generation had (one car, tiny home, rarely eat out, etc).
            What are you even saying? I will grant you that my kids’ generation eat out a lot more that we ever did. But there is no argument about the elephant in the room, that house prices have outpaced income for decades now. In 1985, the median price was 3.5 times the median income in America. It is now more than 5. That’s the hard math.
            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
            - SeattleUte

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            • falafel
              loves to talk on things
              • Mar 2009
              • 37928

              #1461
              Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

              What are you even saying? I will grant you that my kids’ generation eat out a lot more that we ever did. But there is no argument about the elephant in the room, that house prices have outpaced income for decades now. In 1985, the median price was 3.5 times the median income in America. It is now more than 5. That’s the hard math.
              Sure, but the comparison is simply not complete. You can't compare housing costs without also comparing spending habits. If "kids" stopped eating out and made all of their meals at home, if kids did not demand a covered education (something their parents' never dreamed of), if kids compare the "needs" of modern life (a netflix subscription, a mobile phone bill over $100, a car that doesn't have anywhere near the capabilities as their parents' cars, etc., the comparison may be much closer. There is no apples to apples comparison, despite tiktok's attempt to make one.
              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

              Dig your own grave, and save!

              "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

              "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • Moliere
                One man.....one pie
                • Oct 2009
                • 27846

                #1462
                There are over a dozen homes for sale in my ward for under $270k and they are all at least 3 bedroom homes in a nice school district. There are also a lot of one income homes in my ward becasue wages are high and cost of living is relatively low.
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • Bo Diddley
                  Senior
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 18766

                  #1463
                  Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                  There are over a dozen homes for sale in my ward for under $270k and they are all at least 3 bedroom homes in a nice school district. There are also a lot of one income homes in my ward becasue wages are high and cost of living is relatively low.
                  Yep. Young people should be looking at relocating to other markets like Houston. One of my young employees is planning to move to Tennessee in a couple of years for this very reason.

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                  • tooblue
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 5115

                    #1464
                    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    That is a great video.

                    Every time I see someone whine about how much worse things are now financially for young people, I want to scream. Standards were so much different then. Young kids today could absolutely afford what the prior generation had (one car, tiny home, rarely eat out, etc).
                    To offer more context, I will teach a preparing to graduate cohort of about 24 students tomorrow. Their future is at the forefront of their minds. They will push back with the Tick Tock algorithmic talking points. This group will be on campus in class for roughly nine hours. In that time most of them will spend at least $20 on coffee, a doughnut or other treat, a wrap or flat bread pizza, or burger or sushi and a soda. Many will travel on public transit paid for in part by their student fees, but also local government. Several others will drive and also pay for parking. The frugal one or two will bring their own lunch.

                    They are a privileged generation.

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                    • Bo Diddley
                      Senior
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 18766

                      #1465
                      The real question isn't whether every generation gets exactly what the previous generation had. Has it ever been that way? It's whether we're giving each generation a fair opportunity to build a good life, even if that life looks different from the one their parents had. I think there's work to be done on both sides of the equation.

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                      • BigPiney
                        Huge Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12354

                        #1466
                        Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

                        Yep. Young people should be looking at relocating to other markets like Houston. One of my young employees is planning to move to Tennessee in a couple of years for this very reason.

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                        • BigFatMeanie
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 7107

                          #1467
                          Median size of a new home today is 38% greater than in 1980 while family size has decreased slightly. Larger homes carry higher prices, even when measured on a price/sq foot basis.

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                          • Northwestcoug
                            Cocked and Loaded
                            • May 2011
                            • 17976

                            #1468
                            Originally posted by falafel View Post

                            Sure, but the comparison is simply not complete. You can't compare housing costs without also comparing spending habits. If "kids" stopped eating out and made all of their meals at home, if kids did not demand a covered education (something their parents' never dreamed of), if kids compare the "needs" of modern life (a netflix subscription, a mobile phone bill over $100, a car that doesn't have anywhere near the capabilities as their parents' cars, etc., the comparison may be much closer. There is no apples to apples comparison, despite tiktok's attempt to make one.
                            Ok boomer.

                            a cell phone subscription is an absolute necessity in this day, analogous to having a landline for my generation. A Netflix subscription is 15/month. The food thing is the only item that could approximate the difference between rent and a mortgage. But the caricature of kids ALWAYS eating out and NEVER having food at home comes straight out of Dave Ramsay’s shtick.

                            Each one of my kids is in a relationship right now. all of them are comprised of two incomes. One makes 4th year resident level income, two others make ~25/hr at tech level jobs that require a BS; they live in SLC and the Seattle area. One kid works at a resort that provides very cheap housing. Two of those relationships are with engineers; those are the ones that are closest to home ownership. One of them could buy a house in most American cities. The other would still need to save a while for a down payment. One partner needs to pay down a fair amount of school debt before they’ll have enough for a down payment. And unless he goes off grid, my son will not own a house for years, if ever.

                            The one who eats most out takes advantage of resident program provided meals; she buys very little to prepare food. But she and her partner are close enough financially to afford buying a house if they want. The other 2 shop at Smiths and Costco. They eat out a fair amount, but their food bills are most definitely not stopping them from owning a home.

                            All four of their vehicles were provided by us. We paid for state university-level tuition for the three who went. They still drive those vehicles, two of which are almost 20 years old. But they are the beneficiaries of the exact benevolence that we received from our parents. And when it came time to buy our first house, my FIL helped us out.

                            It was tough for us to afford a home, and our parents most assuredly criticized what we thought were essential budget items. It is now even tougher for this generation, and to solely blame their more expensive habits while ignoring the elephant(s) in the room is not providing the whole story. It is as simple as that.
                            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                            - SeattleUte

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                            • MartyFunkhouser
                              Disciple of RNGesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 18730

                              #1469
                              Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

                              Fair points. I would push back on the housing.

                              Today's median homes are simply much larger and nicer. So where are all the affordable homes that our young people should be buying? Governor Cox recognizes this, along with a housing shortage overall, and has been trying to get builders and communities to provide more affordable housing.

                              And less access to housing means less access to building wealth. Housing is one of the primary ways middle class have used to build wealth.

                              Where do we go from here? Does low fertility, AI and robotics fix all these issues or make them worse.
                              We need help people accept and be okay with high density housing. If you really want a starter home these days, you really are looking at a townhome or condo. It is just reality.
                              As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                              --Kendrick Lamar

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                              • Jeff Lebowski
                                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 69603

                                #1470
                                Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                                Ok boomer.

                                a cell phone subscription is an absolute necessity in this day, analogous to having a landline for my generation. A Netflix subscription is 15/month. The food thing is the only item that could approximate the difference between rent and a mortgage. But the caricature of kids ALWAYS eating out and NEVER having food at home comes straight out of Dave Ramsay’s shtick.

                                Each one of my kids is in a relationship right now. all of them are comprised of two incomes. One makes 4th year resident level income, two others make ~25/hr at tech level jobs that require a BS; they live in SLC and the Seattle area. One kid works at a resort that provides very cheap housing. Two of those relationships are with engineers; those are the ones that are closest to home ownership. One of them could buy a house in most American cities. The other would still need to save a while for a down payment. One partner needs to pay down a fair amount of school debt before they’ll have enough for a down payment. And unless he goes off grid, my son will not own a house for years, if ever.

                                The one who eats most out takes advantage of resident program provided meals; she buys very little to prepare food. But she and her partner are close enough financially to afford buying a house if they want. The other 2 shop at Smiths and Costco. They eat out a fair amount, but their food bills are most definitely not stopping them from owning a home.

                                All four of their vehicles were provided by us. We paid for state university-level tuition for the three who went. They still drive those vehicles, two of which are almost 20 years old. But they are the beneficiaries of the exact benevolence that we received from our parents. And when it came time to buy our first house, my FIL helped us out.

                                It was tough for us to afford a home, and our parents most assuredly criticized what we thought were essential budget items. It is now even tougher for this generation, and to solely blame their more expensive habits while ignoring the elephant(s) in the room is not providing the whole story. It is as simple as that.
                                Sounds like your kids are doing pretty well overall (congrats!).

                                Nobody said that "kids ALWAYS eating out and NEVER having food at home". Come on. But people in general eat out FAR more often than they used to.

                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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