Trigger warnings, safe spaces, and fascism on college campuses

[BigPiney]

The BYU BoT must have missed the memo. The current BYU president is not a general authority.

The last BYU president (who is/was a seventy) is now a visiting scholar at Yale. I won't comment on the two before that.

The two before that sucked.

The Boris Yelstin impersonator should be kicked in the nuts repeatedly.

[USUC]

my contention is that there has never not been and never will not be a time where bias was absent from any form of media or human work product and that feeble minded people use bias to discount the underlying factual reporting and the more sinister use it to divide and exploit. in particular, the claim that liberal journalists are uniquely to blame for that bias is nonsense. the current state of american discourse is the result of historical conservative efforts to radicalize and spoonfeed their audience mixed with a soup of social media illiteracy, baby boomers' reaction to the rejection of beliefs they viewed to be unassailable, and millenial/gen z ennui generated by the belief that they are the first generation in american history that they are inheriting a future less promising than their fathers.

What you are describing here are political and cultural problems. The media didn't invent or create these issues. Education and housing costs are astronomical for young adults and the hopelessness they feel is based in that reality. Likewise, boomers (and Gen Xers, btw) have seen the complete capture of every cultural institution by progressives who are hostile to non progressive ideologies. The media is one of these institutions. This didn't happen under Trump or after the GOP went MAGA. It began during the GWB presidency and consolidated under Obama. Conservatives have coexisted with a liberal legacy media since the 60s. Sure there was whacky conservative talk radio but there was also whacky print publications like Mother Jones and the New Republic, but the NYT and WP were not overly hostile to conservative policy arguments. That changed with the ideological shift and more activist approach now common. The "feeble minded" may use this as ammunition to further their toxic aims, but the fact remains it exists.

[Non Sequitur]

The BYU BoT must have missed the memo. The current BYU president is not a general authority.

The last BYU president (who is/was a seventy) is now a visiting scholar at Yale. I won't comment on the two before that.

I'm sure that Shane Reese was a titan of academia and published several books. I need to up my Fan Duel game, so I'm going to check out some of those books.

[old_gregg]

Likewise, boomers (and Gen Xers, btw) have seen the complete capture of every cultural institution by progressives who are hostile to non progressive ideologies.

you mean other than the presidency of the united states, the supreme court of the united states, the house of representatives, the senate, state and local politics, social media, the blogosphere, comedy, etc.? the race to be the most victimized is pathetic.

This didn't happen under Trump or after the GOP went MAGA. It began during the GWB presidency and consolidated under Obama.

trump and the maga-ness of the gop are symptoms of the brainrot epidemic that has also resulted in a collapse in faith and trust in institutions on which any of these functions are predicated.

Conservatives have coexisted with a liberal legacy media since the 60s. Sure there was whacky conservative talk radio but there was also whacky print publications like Mother Jones and the New Republic, but the NYT and WP were not overly hostile to conservative policy arguments. That changed with the ideological shift and more activist approach now common. The "feeble minded" may use this as ammunition to further their toxic aims, but the fact remains it exists.

that *what* exists? the entire problem is that there is no such thing as a conservative policy argument in 2024 america, where the entirety of the gop policy served up is to elect trump and own the libs. conservatives should worry about taking back their own political and cultural institutions before worrying about throwaway ap headlines.

[USUC]

you mean other than the presidency of the united states, the supreme court of the united states, the house of representatives, the senate, state and local politics, social media, the blogosphere, comedy, etc.? the race to be the most victimized is pathetic.

I said cultural institutions. Half of these are political institutions. Social media? Musk owns twitter and it has become less progressive, but is far from conservative. Unless allowing conservative voices means conservative now. All other social media is progressive. Does the blogosphere exist anymore? It's not the 90s. Comedy? Are you kidding me? Stand up comedy is full of transgressives, but they are quite libertine and liberal. All other comedy is overwhelmingly progressive (SNL, Talk Shows, Movies, etc).

trump and the maga-ness of the gop are symptoms of the brainrot epidemic that has also resulted in a collapse in faith and trust in institutions on which any of these functions are predicated.

Collapse of trust in cultural institutions perhaps?

that *what* exists? the entire problem is that there is no such thing as a conservative policy argument in 2024 america, where the entirety of the gop policy served up is to elect trump and own the libs. conservatives should worry about taking back their own political and cultural institutions before worrying about throwaway ap headlines.

We all know that the "conservative" policy positions are and you nailed it. Trump (the hammer) and fighting back the progressive takeover. I don't like it. I don't care much about the culture war. I care about fiscal policy and a check on government power. It depresses me greatly that the GOP is now the right wing party of big governemnt. I wish Trump would leave this mortal coil. But the pushback was inevitable and it would've happened without Trump. Culture is the most powerful component of society. People are going to fight over it.

Anyway, congratulations counselor. You have successfully maneuvered the conversation away from media bias to a broader tangential conversation about culture.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm sure that Shane Reese was a titan of academia and published several books. I need to up my Fan Duel game, so I'm going to check out some of those books.

Lol. Stop.

Shane Reese did publish a highly cited book on Bayesian reliability (I am sure Pelagius would love it). As of 3 years ago, he had published 45 peer-reviewed journal articles - 4X more than Claudine Gay. He has had an excellent academic career.

[Moliere]

Lol. Stop.

Shane Reese did publish a highly cited book on Bayesian reliability (I am sure Pelagius would love it). As of 3 years ago, he had published 45 peer-reviewed journal articles - 4X more than Claudine Gay. He has had an excellent academic career.

I’d like to report a murder!

[Non Sequitur]

Lol. Stop.

Shane Reese did publish a highly cited book on Bayesian reliability (I am sure Pelagius would love it). As of 3 years ago, he had published 45 peer-reviewed journal articles - 4X more than Claudine Gay. He has had an excellent academic career.

Ouch! You people with your fact and figures and shit, take all the fun out of everything.

[beefytee]

The BYU BoT must have missed the memo. The current BYU president is not a general authority.

The last BYU president (who is/was a seventy) is now a visiting scholar at Yale. I won't comment on the two before that.

Didn't Bateman have plagiarism issues with his inaugural address?

Searched for it: Y. PRESIDENT WRITES SCHOLAR, DENIES PLAGIARIZING HER WORK - Deseret News

[BigPiney]

Didn't Bateman have plagiarism issues with his inaugural address?

Searched for it: Y. PRESIDENT WRITES SCHOLAR, DENIES PLAGIARIZING HER WORK - Deseret News

I wouldn't be surprised. Like I said, terrible person.

[Clark Addison]

I wouldn't be surprised. Like I said, terrible person.

My opinion of all BYU presidents after I graduated is 98% based on their support and positive impact on sports, so I completely agree.

[Omaha 680]

My opinion of all BYU presidents after I graduated is 98% based on their support and positive impact on sports, so I completely agree.

Dude was responsible for the Navy Blue/Tan abomination. For that I cannot forgive.

[Northwestcoug]

I wouldn't be surprised. Like I said, terrible person.

This is spokesperson-ing of a higher order:

Bateman declined to answer questions about Tuesday's statement, the second he has issued on the matter. University spokesman Brent Harker said he wasn't sure why Bateman publicly read-dressed the issue Tuesday. "All I can say is maybe the spirit is prompting him."

I had forgotten about this kerfluffle. However, I haven't forgotten the funniest thing written about Bateman:

https://www.ericdsnider.com/archives...teman-robbing/

[fusnik]

It is very important for deans and high-level administrators to have a solid foundation of experience in academia in order to be effective leaders. They need innate leadership qualities of course, but if they haven't been in the trenches they are going to be less effective. And for arguably the most high-profile academic position in the country, Gay's academic background was shockingly weak.

The main role of a president is driving donations and applications to a school, no?

I wonder how many academics, by percentage, would be forced out if an enterprising young person unleashed an AI that could detect plagiarism on all their published works. I’d bet at least 20%.

[Jeff Lebowski]

The main role of a president is driving donations and applications to a school, no?

That is one role, but I would never consider it to be the main role.

I wonder how many academics, by percentage, would be forced out if an enterprising young person unleashed an AI that could detect plagiarism on all their published works. I’d bet at least 20%.

Some degree? Maybe. As extensive has hers? I seriously doubt it.

And apparently it was discovered back in October prior to her testimony, but it didn't get much traction in the media then.