On abortion

[beefytee]

I don't buy the sanctity of life bullshit either. How much do conservatives really care about these fetuses after they are forcibly realized? I say let's constitute a national program where woman who must endure unwanted pregnancies have all pre-natal care payed for by the State and then at birth are able to turn the child over to the care of the State. I'm sure the State could find ample groups, such as Focus on the Family, who would be eager to use their generously donated funds to to support these sanctified lives in perpetuity.

That sounds pretty good to me. I don't know that Focus on the Family does much with it, but I know there are non-profit pro-life groups that do try to provide services like this. I would love to see those services grow and improve.

This frontline episode talks about one such group at about the 32nd minute mark. It is a good episode in general.

FRONTLINE | The Abortion Divide | Season 2019 | Episode 7 | PBS

[Northwestcoug]

I sort of doubt politicians really care about the issue per se; they care about getting their base riled up.

Absolutely. And they’ve become very good at it.

[falafel]

I hope you're right, but I've heard a lot more rhetoric around preventing abortions than I have about what we do with the all the children of unwanted pregnancies.

Well, we have a lot of systems already built up around that, so maybe that's why you don't hear much about it. Adoption, foster care, etc. Its not like those are new problems, society has been grappling with them for ages.

[Non Sequitur]

In my small group of acquaintances, the answer to this is "a lot", they care a lot about them. In fact, they care as much as liberals.

I hope you're right, but I've heard a lot more rhetoric around preventing abortions than I have about what we do with the all the children of unwanted pregnancies.

[USUC]

Yeah, twitter is unbearable right now.

Get a load of this breathless pile of hyperbole:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...rights/629748/

That opening paragraph is a perfect example. Also makes the tired argument by partisans on both sides that they "are losing because they haven't fought brutally like the other side." This thinking got us Trump even though the GOP had plenty of significant wins to that point.

[All-American]

This is where democrats are so dumb, just draft a law that says:

abortion ok - rape, incest, health of mother, the gene that causes downs or whatever it’s called, pre 15 weeks

For these ‘concessions’ you negotiate that - condoms, std checks, birth control and tampons are free and real sex Ed is taught in school

It’s where like 70% of people sit. Make the GOP seem extreme and have to defend when Matt Gaetz and Madison Cawthorne craft a law that calls for the death penalty for women who get an abortion.

I sort of doubt politicians really care about the issue per se; they care about getting their base riled up.

[Moliere]

I don't buy the sanctity of life bullshit either. How much do conservatives really care about these fetuses after they are forcibly realized? I say let's constitute a national program where woman who must endure unwanted pregnancies have all pre-natal care payed for by the State and then at birth are able to turn the child over to the care of the State. I'm sure the State could find ample groups, such as Focus on the Family, who would be eager to use their generously donated funds to to support these sanctified lives in perpetuity.

In my small group of acquaintances, the answer to this is "a lot", they care a lot about them. In fact, they care as much as liberals.

[fusnik]

This is where democrats are so dumb, just draft a law that says:

abortion ok - rape, incest, health of mother, the gene that causes downs or whatever it’s called, pre 15 weeks

For these ‘concessions’ you negotiate that - condoms, std checks, birth control and tampons are free and real sex Ed is taught in school

It’s where like 70% of people sit. Make the GOP seem extreme and have to defend when Matt Gaetz and Madison Cawthorne craft a law that calls for the death penalty for women who get an abortion.

[Eddie]

Yeah, twitter is unbearable right now.

Get a load of this breathless pile of hyperbole:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...rights/629748/

If you are an American with a young daughter, she will grow up in a world without the right to choose when and where she gives birth, and in which nothing restrains a state from declaring her womb its property, with all the invasive authorities that implies.

So - the state is going to tell my daughter when she can get pregnant? The state is going to determine which hospital she has to give birth at? And before scheduling a c-section or pitocin drip she's going to have to check with the state legislature for their approval? Are they going to give some kind of labor inhibitor to women who are pregnant to keep them from going into labor and giving birth prior to receiving authorization?

That statement isn't hyperbolic at all.

[Non Sequitur]

What I'm saying is that I don't believe conservatives value the lives that are being aborted now and won't be still aborted if Roe is overturned. That is the very irony I'm raising.

So don's sanctity of life me, Reverend.

I don't buy the sanctity of life bullshit either. How much do conservatives really care about these fetuses after they are forcibly realized? I say let's constitute a national program where woman who must endure unwanted pregnancies have all pre-natal care payed for by the State and then at birth are able to turn the child over to the care of the State. I'm sure the State could find ample groups, such as Focus on the Family, who would be eager to use their generously donated funds to to support these sanctified lives in perpetuity.

[Jeff Lebowski]

The media class is so extreme on this issue compared to the general population. The takes across the board have been really over the top and hysterical. Hypotheticals being presented as eventualities. It's been really bad.

Yeah, twitter is unbearable right now.

Get a load of this breathless pile of hyperbole:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...rights/629748/

[USUC]

Seems like a scaremongering article. Lots of that from WaPo today.

The media class is so extreme on this issue compared to the general population. The takes across the board have been really over the top and hysterical. Hypotheticals being presented as eventualities. It's been really bad.

[Northwestcoug]

Seems like a scaremongering article. Lots of that from WaPo today.

Its not a stretch to see how this group of six senators will drive primaries and policy decisions in the near future. It doesn’t matter if they ever succeed in criminalizing abortion for the nation. Do you think that the more conservative faction of the GOP, which already plays too big of a role, is going to be content with leaving abortion to the states? There’s already official talk on how to criminalize interstate travel for abortion. Again, doesn’t matter if it succeeds or not. The policy discussions will be dominated with how to restrict abortion further.

[Uncle Ted]

Why has Moloch turned his back on his worshippers?...

After Chanting All Night, Crowd Of Worshippers Still Can't Get Moloch To Answer Them

After gathering at the steps of the Supreme Court and chanting all through the night in support of abortion, a crowd of worshippers are still having a hard time getting their pagan god Moloch to hear them.

"We've chanted, and danced, and even cut ourselves with knives, but still, Moloch is silent," said protest leader and male feminist Skeeve Rapenburg. "Why does he not hear? Why won't he send down fire from the sky and consume this infernal SCOTUS building? MOLOCH! HEAR US!"

Sources at the scene have suggested that Moloch may possibly be on vacation, sitting on the toilet with terrible diarrhea, or binging the latest season of My Little Pony on Netflix. To get the attention of the ancient god of child blood sacrifice, the protestors will have to resort to even more extreme attention-seeking methods, such as arson or screaming into the camera in a TikTok video.

"We will not rest until the great Moloch hears us," shouted Rapenburg, banging his drums even louder.

At publishing time, the crowd was discussing the possibility of sacrificing a beautiful virgin to get the god's attention but failed to do so after being unable to find any virgins.

https://babylonbee.com/news/after-ch...to-answer-them

[Jeff Lebowski]

A lot of the GOP will be ardent states’-rights champions until roe v wade is overturned. Then they will immediately convert back to federal power, baby:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...t-mississippi/

get used to the culture wars. On both sides.

Seems like a scaremongering article. Lots of that from WaPo today.