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  • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

    Yes really


    We have 2 sc justices who pushed to overturn election

    RobertS has let this go off the rails
    You’re aware that there are nine justices, right?
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    • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

      I’m trying to decide if this even deserves a response it’s so ludicrous. You mean the court that is so political that it overturned Trumps tariffs and wouldn’t overturn Obamacare? The court that hasn’t banned abortion? The court that will likely uphold birthright citizenship? I’ll grant you that Alito, Thomas and the three liberal justices keep things very political, but Robert’s, ACB, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh seem to try to get things right based on their own interpretation of the law. This court is political but not nearly as much as the press wants you to believe. They still get things right most of the time.
      Your confirmation bias is showing.


      Saintly Kavanaugh ruled that racial profiling is a perfectly factor for ICE to use when detaining someone.

      They took so long to address cases related to Trump's prosecution it ended up not mattering, and when it did, they gave him immunity.

      They axed Biden's student loan relief (I know that was beloved on here)

      They did nothing to deal with the legitimate ethical concerns about Thomas

      Roe V Wade

      Ending universities abilities to consider diversity in the admissions process.

      When are the other loop holes Trump is exploiting to continue using tariffs going to be addressed? Because nothing on that front has. changed.




      I could go on. But just because you think these may be great and common-sense rulings doesn't mean they aren't political. And it doesn't take much curiosity to try and understand how another could be alarmed by them.

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      • Originally posted by All-American View Post

        You’re aware that there are nine justices, right?
        Come on man...

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        • Not all of the ruling match my personal biases, therefore the court is political and corrupt.

          Lol.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

            Your confirmation bias is showing.


            Saintly Kavanaugh ruled that racial profiling is a perfectly factor for ICE to use when detaining someone.

            They took so long to address cases related to Trump's prosecution it ended up not mattering, and when it did, they gave him immunity.

            They axed Biden's student loan relief (I know that was beloved on here)

            They did nothing to deal with the legitimate ethical concerns about Thomas

            Roe V Wade

            Ending universities abilities to consider diversity in the admissions process.

            When are the other loop holes Trump is exploiting to continue using tariffs going to be addressed? Because nothing on that front has. changed.




            I could go on. But just because you think these may be great and common-sense rulings doesn't mean they aren't political. And it doesn't take much curiosity to try and understand how another could be alarmed by them.
            There are perfectly reasonable arguments for each of those cases being decided as they were, starting with Roe. I’m willing to bet that if there were six liberal justices on the court that you or NWC wouldn’t be advocating for term limits.
            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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            • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

              There are perfectly reasonable arguments for each of those cases being decided as they were, starting with Roe. I’m willing to bet that if there were six liberal justices on the court that you or NWC wouldn’t be advocating for term limits.
              Even the Notorious RBG was highly critical of Roe which she felt was poorly reasoned and detrimental to the women's rights movement.

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              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                There are perfectly reasonable arguments for each of those cases being decided as they were, starting with Roe. I’m willing to bet that if there were six liberal justices on the court that you or NWC wouldn’t be advocating for term limits.
                I'm honestly not debating if the decisions were good. But they very politically charged. I think it was pretty to call NWC ludicrous.

                Brown v Board of Education was a politically charged decision but it wasn't one that I view as wrong

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                • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                  Come on man...
                  I mean, he said he can’t imagine the court being more politicized. That seems to lack imagination.
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                  • Originally posted by All-American View Post

                    I mean, he said he can’t imagine the court being more politicized. That seems to lack imagination.
                    Against the backdrop of current events, social media, and some genuine legal changes, that perspective is a far reach?

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                    • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                      Against the backdrop of current events, social media, and some genuine legal changes, that perspective is a far reach?
                      Based on the actions of two judges? Absolutely. I mean, it could be three. Or four. Or five. I could go on.
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                      • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                        I'm honestly not debating if the decisions were good. But they very politically charged. I think it was pretty to call NWC ludicrous.

                        Brown v Board of Education was a politically charged decision but it wasn't one that I view as wrong
                        I don't even know what you are arguing. The argument NWC made is that the court was political and I was just pointing out that they are horrible at being political since they tend to shoot down the majority of Trump's policies. I guess I define political as voting to uphold, the vast majority of the time, the political agenda of the person that appointed them.

                        As mentioned by others above, Gorsush, ACB and Kavanaugh (I'd put Roberts in there as well) are exactly what the court needs. People that are qualifed to be justices and have an interpretation of law that they tend to stick to to almost a predictable nature...and they aren't extreme at all.
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                          I don't even know what you are arguing. The argument NWC made is that the court was political and I was just pointing out that they are horrible at being political since they tend to shoot down the majority of Trump's policies. I guess I define political as voting to uphold, the vast majority of the time, the political agenda of the person that appointed them.

                          As mentioned by others above, Gorsush, ACB and Kavanaugh (I'd put Roberts in there as well) are exactly what the court needs. People that are qualifed to be justices and have an interpretation of law that they tend to stick to to almost a predictable nature...and they aren't extreme at all.
                          To the extent criticism of the Court in general is actually criticism directed toward Justices Alito and Thomas, the fact that these are two of the three most senior judges ought to go a long way in ameliorating that criticism.

                          For that matter, it ought to weigh against the notion that we are trending in the wrong direction, and against tinkering with the institution.
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                          • Originally posted by All-American View Post

                            To the extent criticism of the Court in general is actually criticism directed toward Justices Alito and Thomas, the fact that these are two of the three most senior judges ought to go a long way in ameliorating that criticism.

                            For that matter, it ought to weigh against the notion that we are trending in the wrong direction, and against tinkering with the institution.
                            What if the weight of the evidence goes against my own personally held beliefs and assumptions?
                            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              Not all of the ruling match my personal biases, therefore the court is political and corrupt.

                              Lol.
                              Lol jl

                              Give up the act

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                              • Originally posted by All-American View Post

                                Based on the actions of two judges? Absolutely. I mean, it could be three. Or four. Or five. I could go on.
                                Uh nro they delay any anti trump related ruling and agree wjth trump admin in na bunch of unsigned orders

                                It is on purpose.

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