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  • chrisrenrut
    Strikes and Gutters
    • Jul 2009
    • 2319

    #1036
    Originally posted by Pelado View Post

    That would eliminate gerrymandering and probably help to moderate a lot but I think the less-populous areas like having a congressperson representing their district alone since otherwise all the power would shift back to the population centers.
    Part of the guidelines for creating voting districts is population equality. So lower population areas have to be combined with each other to equal more populous districts, or combined with more populous districts.

    Utah’s gerrymandering efforts are using the second, since it will dilute the more populous and democratic areas with less populous and republican voters.

    Texas gerrymandering is using the first. Trying to consolidate populous democratic districts to allow more less populous republican districts.

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    • Pelado
      Bald not naked
      • Sep 2010
      • 21215

      #1037
      Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post

      Part of the guidelines for creating voting districts is population equality. So lower population areas have to be combined with each other to equal more populous districts, or combined with more populous districts.

      Utah’s gerrymandering efforts are using the second, since it will dilute the more populous and democratic areas with less populous and republican voters.

      Texas gerrymandering is using the first. Trying to consolidate populous democratic districts to allow more less populous republican districts.
      My comment is not really about gerrymandering technique. Rather, I was attempting to answer the question of why people wouldn't want to get rid of congressional districts in favor of statewide elections.
      "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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      • dabrockster
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 11008

        #1038
        Is there a happy medium. Require district in urban areas based on a population level have districts and less populated have their own district or no district but popular vote for those areas and not allow the urban areas to vote.

        Maybe this is no different than it’s current state, but there has to be a path to remove gerrymandering. I do think what Ahnold did in California was the most equitable path and removed politicians completely.

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        • BlueK
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 7229

          #1039
          During Biden's presidency SCOTUS ruled against his administration multiple times and created something called the major questions doctrine as the rationale. For the tariffs case coming up we'll find out I guess if the hypocrisy comes through and decide if this new legal doctrine only applies to presidents the majority on the court don't like. The tariffs are absolutely a major question. I don't think the doctrine is even needed here to strike them down however. The statutes the administration is trying to use to justify them are a beyond absurd stretching of the original intent of Congress anyway.

          https://apnews.com/article/supreme-c...638e9953db2aeb

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          • falafel
            loves to talk on things
            • Mar 2009
            • 38037

            #1040
            Originally posted by BlueK View Post
            During Biden's presidency SCOTUS ruled against his administration multiple times and created something called the major questions doctrine as the rationale. For the tariffs case coming up we'll find out I guess if the hypocrisy comes through and decide if this new legal doctrine only applies to presidents the majority on the court don't like. The tariffs are absolutely a major question. I don't think the doctrine is even needed here to strike them down however. The statutes the administration is trying to use to justify them are a beyond absurd stretching of the original intent of Congress anyway.

            https://apnews.com/article/supreme-c...638e9953db2aeb
            The article you cite does not seem to paint the same picture you do here. I read the article as suggesting that it is unknown how the Court will address this, given Kavanaugh's dissent and the dissent by the Fed. Ct. of App. judge.
            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

            Dig your own grave, and save!

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            • dabrockster
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 11008

              #1041
              When the SCOTUS shuts down the Trump Tariffs due to over reach. I sure hope they have held all that money we have been getting as it will likely all have to be returned. What a nightmare to unwind all that…

              Plus, what will this mean for all those agreements and the outlook of American across the globe.

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              • Maximus
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 6045

                #1042
                The chances the scotus rules against Trump when when obvious is very low. They know the hand that feeds them.

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                • dabrockster
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11008

                  #1043
                  I thought SCOTUS was to rule on Trump's Tariffs last Friday and was pushed back to the next regularly scheduled "Opinion Day". Which is tomorrow.. I wonder if Vegas as a line on this for betting purposes.. I also wonder if pushing it back gave a indication on which way it will swing.. Wasn't that the same day Powell being referred to DOJ..

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                  • PaloAltoCougar
                    Semper infra dignitatem
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 16963

                    #1044
                    Per Polymarket there's only a 27% change the Court will rule in favor of Trump's tariffs.

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                    • BlueK
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 7229

                      #1045
                      Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                      Per Polymarket there's only a 27% change the Court will rule in favor of Trump's tariffs.
                      it should be even lower than that because the Constitution doesn't give the president the authority to unilaterally create new taxes. In fact it explicitly gives it to a different branch and even specifies further which part of that branch has to start the process. I can't think of what idiotic, convoluted argument will try to be made, but I'm sure Alito will come up with something. I just don't think enough will go along with it.

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                      • frank ryan
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12453

                        #1046
                        Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                        Per Polymarket there's only a 27% change the Court will rule in favor of Trump's tariffs.
                        Well can't Trump ignore the court since they previously said he was immune from criminality?

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                        • Moliere
                          One man.....one pie
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 27927

                          #1047
                          Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                          Well can't Trump doesn't ignore the court since they previously said he was immune from criminality?
                          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                          • dabrockster
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11008

                            #1048
                            Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                            Per Polymarket there's only a 27% change the Court will rule in favor of Trump's tariffs.
                            I guess we all need to buckle up for when that hits as I think we will see a jolt to our stocks and the market as it will further place our economy in flux.. Thinking about all that will happen and what that entails. Returning of money.. If the Govt. had earmarked this for things. For example, the recent military bonus check or our taxes for 2025. Will any planning for reducing taxes now be tossed.

                            Gonna be a bumpy time next week..

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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69832

                              #1049
                              Interesting:

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                              • dabrockster
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 11008

                                #1050
                                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                                Interesting:

                                Is that specific to this case?

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