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  • BlueK
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 7180

    #136
    Originally posted by Moliere View Post

    I'm no expert on this like AA, but I'd be curious to see an example of the time he voted based on his wife, which I'd then expect to be something outside of his historical jurisprudence. Maybe it exists but it would be good to see evidence of what you are saying.
    When he was the 1 in the 8-1 decision that threw out Trump's executive privilege claim to disallow the Jan 6th committee from accessing the texts, documents, and testimony of people working for Trump related to what a losing president was trying to do to keep from leaving office, culminating in a violent attack on Congress to prevent them from transferring power to the next president. His wife's texts with Mark Meadows heavily pushing for the fake electors scheme, among other dubious things, were included in that. Before all the craziness of the Trump era there is no way Thomas would have been part of trying to prevent a Congressional investigation of something like that.
    Last edited by BlueK; 04-09-2023, 07:57 AM.

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    • Uncle Ted
      The Big 12 money shot.
      • Apr 2010
      • 28853

      #137
      Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

      Cause they don't or they would vote in a way that would reflect it when the opposite is true.

      Also, you don't seem to be very concerned with racism in general .
      Uncle Thomas didn’t vote for Grandpa Joe? So is he not black?

      I grew up with racism (being called a “half bred” in my younger years). Karma bit those racist kids in the ass later in life. They are all either dead or broke now. I thank them for giving me the drive to be successful in life when I bump into them.

      The left are hypocrites pretending to care about fascism and racism concerning the Tennessee capitol insurrection. If a state representative can’t learn and follow the Robert Rules of Order then they need to be kicked out.





      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
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      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • Non Sequitur
        Where did I put my bodkin
        • Nov 2008
        • 5773

        #138
        Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

        Uncle Thomas didn’t vote for Grandpa Joe? So is he not black?

        I grew up with racism (being called a “half bred” in my younger years). Karma bit those racist kids in the ass later in life. They are all either dead or broke now. I thank them for giving me the drive to be successful in life when I bump into them.

        The left are hypocrites pretending to care about fascism and racism concerning the Tennessee capitol insurrection. If a state representative can’t learn and follow the Robert Rules of Order then they need to be kicked out.
        What a load of horseshit. Apparently it's true that bigotry begets more bigotry. It all makes sense now.

        "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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        • All-American
          Right, as Usual
          • Nov 2008
          • 15657

          #139
          Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post

          I'm not buying it. If you had to predict his opinion on a specific case, would you have more luck basing your prediction on his overarching judicial philosophy or whether his decision would be endorsed by the Freedom Caucus? Case in point: If the recent decision by the Texas MAGA judge to halt FDA approval of mifepristone is appealed and reaches the Supreme Court, is there a chance in hell that Thomas would not uphold the ban on mifepristone? It would have nothing to do with judicial philosophy and everything to do with political partisanship.
          How he would vote on a case that hasn’t even made it to the court of appeals yet, much less the Supreme Court, I couldn’t guess. Nor could I guess how any such decision would square away with his prior judicial philosophy as compared to whatever the Freedom Caucus would prefer.

          What I can say, based on his history, is that he has a proven record of standing on an island, insusceptible to persuasion or compromise—even on arcane and technical points other like-minded jurists long gave up. He’s made the one-man opinion (sometimes a concurrence, usually a dissent) an art form. It’s a source of no small frustration even among those on the right. The idea that he cow-tows to any outside influence is highly suspect.

          True, his decisions tends to land in a predictable direction. But I don’t think he needed the Freedom Caucus’s help to get there.
          τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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          • frank ryan
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 12320

            #140
            Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

            Uncle Thomas didn’t vote for Grandpa Joe? So is he not black?

            I grew up with racism (being called a “half bred” in my younger years). Karma bit those racist kids in the ass later in life. They are all either dead or broke now. I thank them for giving me the drive to be successful in life when I bump into them.

            The left are hypocrites pretending to care about fascism and racism concerning the Tennessee capitol insurrection. If a state representative can’t learn and follow the Robert Rules of Order then they need to be kicked out.




            The protest in the TN legislature wasn't fascist. You are the only poster on this board who somewhat regularly, shares tweets from alt right fascist types. Your discernment isn't the best with this stuff.

            Ted your lack of consistency and awareness is astounding.
            I'm glad your turned your encounters with bigotry into motivation, but that karmic justice doesn't reach most offenders.
            In fact it serves a lot of folks. That has been one of the concerning trends with the new GOP.


            You don't seem to give a rats ass about order when it is people like MTG or Boebert being disruptive. Or the magnitude of disruptive and nearly seditious behaviors on the part of many GOP congress people during Jan 6.

            You're also silent about George Santos.

            There are a lot of options short of expelling someone from the legislature. I'm sure if we were to play history we could read how plenty of Tennessee legislators have broken order and been disruptive without consequence.
            Last edited by frank ryan; 04-09-2023, 11:47 AM.

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            • Applejack
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 3812

              #141
              Should we be concerned by Harlan Crowe and Justice Thomas real estate deals?

              The transaction is the first known instance of money flowing from Crow to the Supreme Court justice. The sale netted the GOP megadonor two vacant lots and the house where Thomas’ mother was living.

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              • Commando
                Explosivo
                • Feb 2009
                • 20748

                #142
                So I went to DC and got admitted to the SCOTUS bar last month. Not that I'll be arguing any cases there anytime soon, but I guess it's kind of a rite of passage and does make me feel a little bit more connected to my profession. It was a fun experience and I was genuinely entertained during the 90 minute argument I watched (they went way over but it was still fun), which I feel is a bit of progress bc I don't think I was ever too riveted by legal arguments in mundane cases in law school. I guess it was cool to be there in front of the Court and watch each of their interactions with the attorneys arguing the case. It kind of humanized Thomas and Alito for me a little even though I sometimes wonder how they can really agree with some of the opinions they write.
                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                • Applejack
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3812

                  #143
                  Originally posted by Commando View Post
                  So I went to DC and got admitted to the SCOTUS bar last month. Not that I'll be arguing any cases there anytime soon, but I guess it's kind of a rite of passage and does make me feel a little bit more connected to my profession. It was a fun experience and I was genuinely entertained during the 90 minute argument I watched (they went way over but it was still fun), which I feel is a bit of progress bc I don't think I was ever too riveted by legal arguments in mundane cases in law school. I guess it was cool to be there in front of the Court and watch each of their interactions with the attorneys arguing the case. It kind of humanized Thomas and Alito for me a little even though I sometimes wonder how they can really agree with some of the opinions they write.
                  Congrats! Trips to the Court are always a highlight.

                  fun fact: when I got sworn into the Supreme Court bar, I did so alongside one of the greatest legal minds on the century: Nancy Grace!

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                  • Pelado
                    Bald not naked
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 21131

                    #144
                    Originally posted by Applejack View Post

                    Congrats! Trips to the Court are always a highlight.

                    fun fact: when I got sworn into the Supreme Court bar, I did so alongside one of the greatest legal minds on the century: Nancy Grace!
                    Impressive.
                    "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                    - Goatnapper'96

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                    • Northwestcoug
                      Cocked and Loaded
                      • May 2011
                      • 17980

                      #145
                      Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                      Should we be concerned by Harlan Crowe and Justice Thomas real estate deals?

                      https://www.propublica.org/article/c...-estate-scotus
                      this is going to turn into something big like Pelican Brief isn’t it?

                      remarkable how Thomas knew then forgot those pesky disclosure rules.
                      "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                      "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                      - SeattleUte

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                      • Moliere
                        One man.....one pie
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 27848

                        #146
                        Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                        Should we be concerned by Harlan Crowe and Justice Thomas real estate deals?

                        https://www.propublica.org/article/c...-estate-scotus
                        super concerned
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • frank ryan
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 12320

                          #147
                          Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                          Should we be concerned by Harlan Crowe and Justice Thomas real estate deals?

                          https://www.propublica.org/article/c...-estate-scotus
                          I've been assured by astute online voices that Justice Thomas is amazing and that his super stable wife's politics have little to no impact over his decisions.

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                          • All-American
                            Right, as Usual
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 15657

                            #148
                            Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                            Should we be concerned by Harlan Crowe and Justice Thomas real estate deals?

                            https://www.propublica.org/article/c...-estate-scotus
                            See everything I said before. The transaction itself gets a big meh from me. If he didn’t follow disclosure rules, that’s troubling.
                            τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                            • Applejack
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3812

                              #149
                              Originally posted by All-American View Post

                              See everything I said before. The transaction itself gets a big meh from me. If he didn’t follow disclosure rules, that’s troubling.
                              Apparently, he didn’t. It’s in the article.

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                              • All-American
                                Right, as Usual
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 15657

                                #150
                                Originally posted by Applejack View Post

                                Apparently, he didn’t. It’s in the article.
                                Yeah, I saw that. If only they had cited FIVE anonymous legal experts, then I’d have been convinced.
                                τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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