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  • LVAllen
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 3253

    #946
    Originally posted by Maximus View Post
    good. screw them kids
    Just in time for Trump to eliminate funding for the Suicide Hotline for LGBTQ youth and young adults.

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    • Shaka
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 10448

      #947
      Good SCOTUS! It doesn't ban all therapies, just puberty blockers, hormone therapy, and medical transitions for minors.

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      • Moliere
        One man.....one pie
        • Oct 2009
        • 27843

        #948
        Originally posted by Shaka View Post
        Good SCOTUS! It doesn't ban all therapies, just puberty blockers, hormone therapy, and medical transitions for minors.
        Seems like a common sense ruling and one that is likely supported by a majority of the population.
        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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        • LVAllen
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 3253

          #949
          Originally posted by Moliere View Post

          Seems like a common sense ruling and one that is likely supported by a majority of the population.
          What about a majority of the families that are actually affected by this? Do you think they support it?

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          • Northwestcoug
            Cocked and Loaded
            • May 2011
            • 17971

            #950
            Originally posted by Shaka View Post
            Good SCOTUS! It doesn't ban all therapies, just puberty blockers, hormone therapy, and medical transitions for minors.
            A great principled decision for those Tennessee parents who need those very therapies for kids who require them. And I'm not talking about transitioning. And I totally trust politicians to understand the nuance of medically necessary treatments.
            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
            - SeattleUte

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            • Omaha 680
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 11174

              #951
              Originally posted by LVAllen View Post

              What about a majority of the families that are actually affected by this? Do you think they support it?
              If definition of "actually affected" is just the minority of families with minor children who have gender dysphoria and have also decided to treat those minors with physical alterations, then I would guess no the majority does not support it. That doesn't automatically mean it's a wrong decision though.

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              • Maximus
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 6012

                #952
                Originally posted by LVAllen View Post

                Just in time for Trump to eliminate funding for the Suicide Hotline for LGBTQ youth and young adults.
                Wish people were against this but crickets

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                • Maximus
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 6012

                  #953
                  Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                  Good SCOTUS! It doesn't ban all therapies, just puberty blockers, hormone therapy, and medical transitions for minors.
                  how much reading about trans people from trans people have you done?

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69589

                    #954
                    Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                    A great principled decision for those Tennessee parents who need those very therapies for kids who require them. And I'm not talking about transitioning. And I totally trust politicians to understand the nuance of medically necessary treatments.
                    Do you think there should be any restriction on surgeries and/or medical treatments for minors?

                    And help us understand the circumstances where a decision to surgically castrate yourself can't until a person is an adult.
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Jeff Lebowski
                      Corporate lackey for Jesus
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 69589

                      #955
                      Also, the Tennessee law is line with most European countries. The UK, Norway, Sweden, etc now ban puberty blockers, etc for minors. The Cass Review in the UK found that the evidence supporting the need for gender-affirming care in minors is extremely weak.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • Moliere
                        One man.....one pie
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 27843

                        #956
                        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        Also, the Tennessee law is line with most European countries. The UK, Norway, Sweden, etc now ban puberty blockers, etc for minors. The Cass Review in the UK found that the evidence supporting the need for gender-affirming care in minors is extremely weak.
                        Yep. Facts and science support the SCOTUS decision. Liberal scare tactics and talking points are misaligned with science on this one.
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • wally
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                          • Jun 2010
                          • 4137

                          #957
                          I am okay with deferring to children to make permanent decisions about their bodies.... as long as medical and other professionals(psychlogists, etc.) and also parents who helped them to those decisions can be held financially or criminally responsible should that child grow up and regret that permanent decision. $10 M settlement or 5-year prison term, minimum.

                          If parents and professionals are THAT certain that the risks of permanent surgery and treatment are worth it, then they should have some of their skin in the game along with the skin lopped off of the child.

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                          • LVAllen
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 3253

                            #958
                            Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                            Yep. Facts and science support the SCOTUS decision. Liberal scare tactics and talking points are misaligned with science on this one.
                            Facts don't support it. The science doesn't support it. And the law for sure doesn't support it. The opinion is bullshit wrapped in catshit with a side of horseshit.

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                            • Northwestcoug
                              Cocked and Loaded
                              • May 2011
                              • 17971

                              #959
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                              Do you think there should be any restriction on surgeries and/or medical treatments for minors?

                              And help us understand the circumstances where a decision to surgically castrate yourself can't until a person is an adult.
                              We've been through this before. I have cited real-world examples of congenital diseases where 'puberty blockers' and surgical interventions are very necessary treatments. If you think our state legislators are wise enough to craft laws that do not hinder medically indicated treatments, you have much more faith in our elected officials than I do.
                              "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                              "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                              - SeattleUte

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                              • Jeff Lebowski
                                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 69589

                                #960
                                Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                                We've been through this before. I have cited real-world examples of congenital diseases where 'puberty blockers' and surgical interventions are very necessary treatments. If you think our state legislators are wise enough to craft laws that do not hinder medically indicated treatments, you have much more faith in our elected officials than I do.
                                Rare congenital diseases are not the issue here.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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