Endgame is Here: Republicans are Breaking

[il Padrino Ute]

Yes. It is a dumb way to stop spending as it results in the Charlie Foxtrot we are currently experiencing. Get your spending under control without destroying our credit rating and causing so much unnecessary disruption. Really stupid way to govern.

That's the problem. The government is incapable of getting the spending under control. It's proven that it is incapable of controlling spending for decades.

[il Padrino Ute]

I'm not saying it, the bathroom doors at Cascade Springs are saying it. When little children have to go to the bathroom but are denied, don't act surprised if they blame the party that controls the House of Representatives.

The sign said the bathrooms were the result of the government shutdown. The sign said nothing as to which party was responsible for the shutdown. You blamed the Republicans.

[lambdacoug]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/psy...ericans,34163/

Is this even satire? LOL

[TripletDaddy]

The sign said the bathrooms were the result of the government shutdown. The sign said nothing as to which party was responsible for the shutdown. You blamed the Republicans.

I said nothing to any of the children. They all came to their own conclusions. rememebr, I don't use public restrooms so this particular manifestation of the shutdown didnt really bother me.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Endgame is Here: Republicans are Breaking

I said nothing to any of the children. They all came to their own conclusions. rememebr, I don't use public restrooms so this particular manifestation of the shutdown didnt really bother me.

There are lots of creative ways to avoid using public restrooms. Some of them may even qualify for posting in that redneck pride thread.

[TripletDaddy]

There are lots of creative ways to avoid using public restrooms. Some of them may even qualify for posting in that redneck pride thread.

I actually employed an obvious one while we were up in the mountains. told the kids that I was going to go "check something out" further up the trail. they had no idea.

[Uncle Ted]

There are lots of creative ways to avoid using public restrooms. Some of them may even qualify for posting in that redneck pride thread.

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Uncle Ted approved.

[Eddie]

Both sides are at fault for the government being dysfunctional. We can agree on that.

One side is at fault for actually forcing the government to close as their response (escalation) of the dysfunction. That's the Republicans. One side is at fault for threatening to breach the debt ceiling. That's Republicans.

They didn't get their way on Obamacare. So they tried to win through elections. They lost the elections. So they tried to win through the courts. They lost in the courts. So they tried winning at a state level. They (mostly) failed at the state level, so now they are shutting down the government and threatening debt default.

That's all on them. They clearly don't like the law. We all get that. What they don't understand is that the solution is to win elections. If Obamacare is really as bad as they claim, it shouldn't be hard for them to let it fail and then swoop in for election victory. The fact that they don't ever want to even get to that point is quite telling- it strongly suggests they don't view the odds of failure nearly as high as they pretend.

I think that it was pretty cut and dried an the Republicans were doing their best to look like idiots when this started.

But then the Democrats proved that they didn't want to lose the "biggest idiot" contest when they started shutting down dirt roads, parking lots, open air monuments, and a variety of other things that have either very little or nothing to do with federal funding. Now I'm not sure who is the biggest idiot.

The Democrats want me to trust them with budget decisions as they demonstrate how little they know about it by closing things that are unaffected by the federal budget?

They want me to believe that it is the Republicans who are petty fools when they do their best to demonstrate that while they may not be bigger fools they can at least outdo the Republicans at being Petty?

I thought this was a loser move for the Republicans. I think the Democrats actions have salvaged it for them and caused folks to do more sharing of blame than they may have initially. Imagine if, instead, the Democrats had said "the Republicans want to shut down our government. We're going to do the very best that we can to minimize the effect on the American people. Because we care about you!"

What if the Democrats had left the monuments and parks open that don't require staffing? What if they had attempted to engage these organizations that are helping pay for things that the fed usually pays for and then publicized that they wanted to make sure these folks weren't effected.

The reality is that there would still be effects felt - we wouldn't and couldn't be without. National Parks that require a lot of staff still would've had to be shut down. We would still know that things are closed. But the Republicans would've finished their self-immolation and the Democrats would've come through even stronger than before. Now it's as if the Democrats are saying "Oh yeah! Well I've got a can of gasoline I can dump all over MY head too!"

[byu71]

I think that it was pretty cut and dried an the Republicans were doing their best to look like idiots when this started.

But then the Democrats proved that they didn't want to lose the "biggest idiot" contest when they started shutting down dirt roads, parking lots, open air monuments, and a variety of other things that have either very little or nothing to do with federal funding. Now I'm not sure who is the biggest idiot.

The Democrats want me to trust them with budget decisions as they demonstrate how little they know about it by closing things that are unaffected by the federal budget?

They want me to believe that it is the Republicans who are petty fools when they do their best to demonstrate that while they may not be bigger fools they can at least outdo the Republicans at being Petty?

I thought this was a loser move for the Republicans. I think the Democrats actions have salvaged it for them and caused folks to do more sharing of blame than they may have initially. Imagine if, instead, the Democrats had said "the Republicans want to shut down our government. We're going to do the very best that we can to minimize the effect on the American people. Because we care about you!"

What if the Democrats had left the monuments and parks open that don't require staffing? What if they had attempted to engage these organizations that are helping pay for things that the fed usually pays for and then publicized that they wanted to make sure these folks weren't effected.

The reality is that there would still be effects felt - we wouldn't and couldn't be without. National Parks that require a lot of staff still would've had to be shut down. We would still know that things are closed. But the Republicans would've finished their self-immolation and the Democrats would've come through even stronger than before. Now it's as if the Democrats are saying "Oh yeah! Well I've got a can of gasoline I can dump all over MY head too!"

You are right and I don't care how the MSM wants to portray this, the dems made a miscalculation. It wasn't 1995 all over. Sure the public doesn't want the government shut down, but they also dislike Obamacare and our high debt. So the dems are catching it too. They didn't count on that. The blame spread was around 25 points in '95, it is around 13 now.

The other item that isn't catching on with the public in general is the scare tactics on the debt ceiling. I think when most of the public hears about the "market calamity" they think of the "rich" boys getting hammered. The dems have so successful deamonized the rich boys that the claim the markets will tank falls on deaf ears.

It does get the attention of the real power brokers, the very, very rich. They reside in both parties and they have probably had a lot to do with this "temporary compromise".

[snowcat]

I think that it was pretty cut and dried an the Republicans were doing their best to look like idiots when this started.

But then the Democrats proved that they didn't want to lose the "biggest idiot" contest when they started shutting down dirt roads, parking lots, open air monuments, and a variety of other things that have either very little or nothing to do with federal funding. Now I'm not sure who is the biggest idiot.

The Democrats want me to trust them with budget decisions as they demonstrate how little they know about it by closing things that are unaffected by the federal budget?

They want me to believe that it is the Republicans who are petty fools when they do their best to demonstrate that while they may not be bigger fools they can at least outdo the Republicans at being Petty?

I thought this was a loser move for the Republicans. I think the Democrats actions have salvaged it for them and caused folks to do more sharing of blame than they may have initially. Imagine if, instead, the Democrats had said "the Republicans want to shut down our government. We're going to do the very best that we can to minimize the effect on the American people. Because we care about you!"

What if the Democrats had left the monuments and parks open that don't require staffing? What if they had attempted to engage these organizations that are helping pay for things that the fed usually pays for and then publicized that they wanted to make sure these folks weren't effected.

The reality is that there would still be effects felt - we wouldn't and couldn't be without. National Parks that require a lot of staff still would've had to be shut down. We would still know that things are closed. But the Republicans would've finished their self-immolation and the Democrats would've come through even stronger than before. Now it's as if the Democrats are saying "Oh yeah! Well I've got a can of gasoline I can dump all over MY head too!"

I think this is spot on.