Endgame is Here: Republicans are Breaking

[TripletDaddy]

I think a big part of what is creating the gridlock is the fact that not enough issues are settled at the state level. I am not entirely sure it is possible to avoid more and more authority/governing power from not migrating to federal hands, but it undoubtedly creates more to argue about and makes it infinitely more difficult to come to consensus. Buck up folks this is likely to be the way of the future.

People have the right to appeal to the Supreme Court. What practical solution do you propose that would ensure issues be decided "at the state level" without disallowing someone the right to appeal to the Supreme Court?

Name a single hot button social issue of the day that can possibly be resolved at the state level and have no implication beyond that states borders.

[Goatnapper'96]

People have the right to appeal to the Supreme Court. What practical solution do you propose that would ensure issues be decided "at the state level" without disallowing someone the right to appeal to the Supreme Court?

Name a single hot button social issue of the day that can possibly be resolved at the state level and have no implication beyond that states borders.

Perhaps you missed where I stated it isn't possible to avoid this. Or perhaps I used a triple negative and thus confused you, its ok I am part Sicilian! In essence I don't think what is going on can be avoided and I think it is a big part of the problem because I don't think finding national consensus is easy to do.

[TripletDaddy]

Perhaps you missed where I stated it isn't possible to avoid this. Or perhaps I used a triple negative and thus confused you, its ok I am part Sicilian! In essence I don't think what is going on can be avoided and I think it is a big part of the problem because I don't think finding national consensus is easy to do.

Your post suggests that this phenomenon (a "migration") is more and more common and "inevitable" in the future. Why do you think this? Has there been a period of time during your lifetime in which this hasn't been the case?

[il Padrino Ute]

EPU wants a President that will balance the budget. in other words, EPU longs for the Bill Clinton presidency.

Im with you EPU. Looks like we are both voting for Hillary in 2016!

The GOP were in the majority in the House and Senate when Clinton balanced the budget. But you knew that. And Mrs. Clinton can rot in hell. I'd rather vote for John McCain.

For a third time, where is this leadership you claim is happening by the Democrats?

[il Padrino Ute]

I think what he is saying is that social conservatives are fine with gay marriage and granting amnesty to illegal aliens, as long as the state votes on the legality of such.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. No surprise that Cali got it wrong, as he actually thinks he knows me better than I know me.

[Goatnapper'96]

Your post suggests that this phenomenon (a "migration") is more and more common and "inevitable" in the future. Why do you think this? Has there been a period of time during your lifetime in which this hasn't been the case?

I think the migration has been pretty steady for most people's lives. I chimed in because I am one that believes the issues of polarization go a great deal deeper than just Republicans not liking President Obama. Perhaps some leadership will arise who is able to bridge the gap or perhaps one party will get total control, but I am pretty skeptical of either. I guess we agree that as the Federal government decides more and more issues it is likely that events such as this historic government shutdown are more likely. I just like it that Cali and I can agree that the immoral debt and the raising of the debt ceiling is a "failure of leadership."

[lambdacoug]

http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/10/dal...ge-negotiator/

LOL

[oxcoug]

dickering

[Jacob]

EPU wants a President that will balance the budget. in other words, EPU longs for the Bill Clinton presidency.

Im with you EPU. Looks like we are both voting for Hillary in 2016!

No, just the Bill Clinton spending levels. I'd happily vote for Hillary running on that platform. My demand are much more modest. bush spending levels.

[Jacob]

People have the right to appeal to the Supreme Court. What practical solution do you propose that would ensure issues be decided "at the state level" without disallowing someone the right to appeal to the Supreme Court?

Name a single hot button social issue of the day that can possibly be resolved at the state level and have no implication beyond that states borders.

This is an odd post. The Supreme Court could easily decide that abortion is not a right Under the Constitution. It would be resolved at the state level much as it is today. And people in those states the banned most Abortions would simply have abortions performed in nearby states.
Marriage is an issue that has been left largely to the states. So the status quo gets us to where you don't believe we could be.

[Sleeping in EQ]

http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/10/dal...ge-negotiator/

LOL

There's a protest idea in this. If thousands of people show up on Capital Hill with bull horns and act like hostage negotiators....

[Jacob]

We should really have an honest debate on how to divide the nation into two or three separate sovereign nations. One nation could be Federalist and the other could be nationalist. We could then see where the businesses and people settled.

[byu71]

We should really have an honest debate on how to divide the nation into two or three separate sovereign nations. One nation could be Federalist and the other could be nationalist. We could then see where the businesses and people settled.

Also which country had people immigrating from their country to the other after a while.

[Donuthole]

There's a protest idea in this. If thousands of people show up on Capital Hill with bull horns and act like hostage negotiators....

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[Sleeping in EQ]

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Ehh. Distinction without a difference.