Fast Food Labor Strike

[Tim]

The one spending $1.2 million told me they would eliminate 15 jobs and have a four to five year payoff. All these jobs are filled by Spanish workers who have all the right paperwork but I'm sure most are illegal.

Doubtful.

[wuapinmon]

Doubtful.

[RC Vikings]

Doubtful.

Mexican, Hispanic, Latino

I'm not really sure what your are looking for. Do you doubt they are Spanish or that they have the right paperwork.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

In the next fifty or so years, I think there will be not a few who will be automated out of their jobs. I'm curious what thoughts will be about a living wage then.

I think more automation will initially be a boon to the US. China has had a booming economy for basically two reasons: 1) Cheap, plentiful labor; and 2) A government that doesn't give a shit about pollution and generally tries to clear the way for more manufacturing all the time.

More automation means less reliance on cheap labor and at some point it then becomes more profitable to bring the fabrication back to the US. There is some evidence that this is already happening. Furthermore, since China has increasingly been getting a taste of the good life, they're going to start demanding that they don't live in the equivalent filth found in a late 19th century New York City tenement.

Where the rubber really meets the road, however, is when robots gain more human-like physical capabilities. 3-D printing, self-driving cars and things like that will only help the US economy in the upcoming decades. It's when they start displacing construction workers, doctors, dentists or anyone that relies/partially relies on their hands to make their living that people will really start noticing. The bar will forbid robot lawyers for as long as they can. Computers and software have already displaced a lot of the work that attorneys do. For right now it allows attorneys to more efficiently work. But more efficiently work also equals less hours and less fees. And I think big clients are aware of this and law firms aren't able to gouge their clients like they used to.

Going into the future, attorneys, doctors, dentists, etc. would be wise to keep ahead of the technology firm. Invest in it instead of ignoring it. You can still charge people for services provided with automation.

[beefytee]

This kind of seems like what it would have been like if Hollywood Video or Blockbuster employees had protested just before Redbox and Netflix came out.

[imanihonjin]

That's exactly what I'm saying.

Didn't you say that it would be better to let some bureaucrat decide what people make than starving?

[ERCougar]

Didn't you say that it would be better to let some bureaucrat decide what people make than starving?

Yes.

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[snowcat]

I think more automation will initially be a boon to the US. China has had a booming economy for basically two reasons: 1) Cheap, plentiful labor; and 2) A government that doesn't give a shit about pollution and generally tries to clear the way for more manufacturing all the time.

More automation means less reliance on cheap labor and at some point it then becomes more profitable to bring the fabrication back to the US. There is some evidence that this is already happening. Furthermore, since China has increasingly been getting a taste of the good life, they're going to start demanding that they don't live in the equivalent filth found in a late 19th century New York City tenement.

Where the rubber really meets the road, however, is when robots gain more human-like physical capabilities. 3-D printing, self-driving cars and things like that will only help the US economy in the upcoming decades. It's when they start displacing construction workers, doctors, dentists or anyone that relies/partially relies on their hands to make their living that people will really start noticing. The bar will forbid robot lawyers for as long as they can. Computers and software have already displaced a lot of the work that attorneys do. For right now it allows attorneys to more efficiently work. But more efficiently work also equals less hours and less fees. And I think big clients are aware of this and law firms aren't able to gouge their clients like they used to.

Going into the future, attorneys, doctors, dentists, etc. would be wise to keep ahead of the technology firm. Invest in it instead of ignoring it. You can still charge people for services provided with automation.

I think we are on the verge of another revolution. It is coming and it is hard to see right now where people will fit in the future. When a robot/artificial intelligence is a better doctor than a human, we should embrace it. The industrial revolution allowed mankind to radically change how we did things. I believe this revolution will allow us to change our world in ways that we can hardly imagine right now. With more and more powerful tools our ability to create will grow accordingly. I look forward to the future.

[Pelado]

I think we are on the verge of another revolution. It is coming and it is hard to see right now where people will fit in the future. When a robot/artificial intelligence is a better doctor than a human, we should embrace it. The industrial revolution allowed mankind to radically change how we did things. I believe this revolution will allow us to change our world in ways that we can hardly imagine right now. With more and more powerful tools our ability to create will grow accordingly. I look forward to the future.

Can't we just uninvent the wheel instead?

[myboynoah]

Doubtful.

But possible.

[creekster]

I think we are on the verge of another revolution. It is coming and it is hard to see right now where people will fit in the future. When a robot/artificial intelligence is a better doctor than a human, we should embrace it. The industrial revolution allowed mankind to radically change how we did things. I believe this revolution will allow us to change our world in ways that we can hardly imagine right now. With more and more powerful tools our ability to create will grow accordingly. I look forward to the future.

Don't be in such a hurry, my friend. I read a comic book about this very notion back in about 1966 or so. It was frightening. First the robots do basic tasks. Then they become mroe and more accomplished and pretty soon they are doing all sorts of things. People are just laying around with nothing to do and one day, and I know you will find this as chilling as my pre-pubescent self did lo those many years ago, THE ROBOTS DECIDED TO TAKE OVER AND KILL ALL THE HUMANS. It was not a good thing. Unlike you, I dont really look forward to that much of the future. That's becasue of those killer robots but also because I'll be dead.

[snowcat]

Don't be in such a hurry, my friend. I read a comic book about this very notion back in about 1966 or so. It was frightening. First the robots do basic tasks. Then they become mroe and more accomplished and pretty soon they are doing all sorts of things. People are just laying around with nothing to do and one day, and I know you will find this as chilling as my pre-pubescent self did lo those many years ago, THE ROBOTS DECIDED TO TAKE OVER AND KILL ALL THE HUMANS. It was not a good thing. Unlike you, I dont really look forward to that much of the future. That's becasue of those killer robots but also because I'll be dead.

You are probably right. Pick your poison:

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[snowcat]

Can't we just uninvent the wheel instead?

Let's uninvent this first and work our way from there.

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[Sizzle]

The one spending $1.2 million told me they would eliminate 15 jobs and have a four to five year payoff. All these jobs are filled by Spanish workers who have all the right paperwork but I'm sure most are illegal.

That tracks:

($7.5/hr x 40 hr per week x 52 weeks) = $15,600 x 15 employees = $234,000 per year x 5 years = $1,170,000.

Also doesn't take into account any added production by running late, not having to pay benefits, etc. Doesn't count for maintenance, etc. but the calculations are crude enough to illustrate.

[Sizzle]

Doubtful.

There is no way they'd let them take their Siesta.