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fify"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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LOL. The funny thing is how many times Orange County mentions "no cost to taxpayers" in their press release...Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Postfify
http://hbfreshwater.com/orange-countys-future
While it may be no cost to taxpayers the poor folks that want a drink of water will most likely will pay dearly."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
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The cost curve will go down, unless they refuse to increase their power production (a distinct possibility given the inmates who run the California state government asylum) or unless that area of technology is somehow resistant to lower long term costs, kind of like medical technologies that have been around for 30 years (I wonder why that is?).Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostfifyPart of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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The alternative is passing on the costs to everyone in the US that buys almonds, pistachios, peaches, plums nectarines, lettuce, spinach, artichokes, strawberries, grapes, raisins, etc.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostLOL. The funny thing is how many times Orange County mentions "no cost to taxpayers" in their press release...
http://hbfreshwater.com/orange-countys-future
While it may be no cost to taxpayers the poor folks that want a drink of water will most likely will pay dearly.
From what I've read, their costs will only be marginally more than what I pay for water. Install a drip system like I have.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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A liberal conspiracy?Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostThe cost curve will go down, unless they refuse to increase their power production (a distinct possibility given the inmates who run the California state government asylum) or unless that area of technology is somehow resistant to lower long term costs, kind of like medical technologies that have been around for 30 years (I wonder why that is?)."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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As a longtime resident of Orange County (South countyOriginally posted by Uncle Ted View PostLOL. The funny thing is how many times Orange County mentions "no cost to taxpayers" in their press release...
http://hbfreshwater.com/orange-countys-future
), I can tell you that being subject to a Mello Roos tax regime has made South County residents very sensitive to the funding any new civic projects. I dont doubt that a press release is going to go out of its way to clarify the source of funds.
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As usual you show no aptitude for economics. Think targeted economic benefit resulting from costs that are spread indirectly to everyone through public and employer outlays.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostA liberal conspiracy?Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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As usual, you lack both a sense of humor and self awareness.Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostAs usual you show no aptitude for economics. Think targeted economic benefit resulting from costs that are spread indirectly to everyone through public and employer outlays."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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i too took econ 110Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostAs usual you show no aptitude for economics. Think targeted economic benefit resulting from costs that are spread indirectly to everyone through public and employer outlays.Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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Santa Ana isn't South County, DDD.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostAs a longtime resident of Orange County (South county
), I can tell you that being subject to a Mello Roos tax regime has made South County residents very sensitive to the funding any new civic projects. I dont doubt that a press release is going to go out of its way to clarify the source of funds."What are you prepared to do?" - Jimmy Malone
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I think it was freakonomics that addressed this a while ago, only with a study of residents from a Texas community. They passed out fliers in one neighborhood detailing how serious the water problem was and asking people to conserve. In another neighborhood, the fliers took a "we're proud to be in a neighborhood that conserves water" tone. In the former, water usage went up; the latter, it went down. A similar dynamic was noted in the Petrified Forest National Park. I guess they have a problem with people stealing petrified wood and taking it home. So for a time period, they passed out info on the scarcity of the wood and that they're going to run out if people continue to take it. Stealing went up. People don't respond to scarcity threats, at least how you want them to. They do want to be like everyone else though.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostLast year water usage actually went up. Stupid Californians.
I am not sure people appreciate how catastrophic this could be.At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
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Yeah, that's a classic result in cognitive psychology (well, the petrified forest result and experiments trying to do similar things are pretty classic ... that Texas water problem study is newer). Behavioral economists (economists that model irrational or quasi-rational behavior) have used these results from cognitive psychology as motivation for quasi-rational/irrational modeling quite a bit. I've often suggested that these results had important implications for the church in terms of how the problem of low home teaching rates should be approached (and other similar issues).Originally posted by ERCougar View PostI think it was freakonomics that addressed this a while ago, only with a study of residents from a Texas community. They passed out fliers in one neighborhood detailing how serious the water problem was and asking people to conserve. In another neighborhood, the fliers took a "we're proud to be in a neighborhood that conserves water" tone. In the former, water usage went up; the latter, it went down. A similar dynamic was noted in the Petrified Forest National Park. I guess they have a problem with people stealing petrified wood and taking it home. So for a time period, they passed out info on the scarcity of the wood and that they're going to run out if people continue to take it. Stealing went up. People don't respond to scarcity threats, at least how you want them to. They do want to be like everyone else though.Last edited by pelagius; 03-20-2015, 09:06 PM.
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Not so fast...Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostFrom the sounds of it the water situation is Cali is not going to get any better this year...
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed...313-story.htmlCalifornia has about one year of water left. Will you ration now?
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Right now the state has only about one year of water supply left in its reservoirs, and our strategic backup supply, groundwater, is rapidly disappearing. California has no contingency plan for a persistent drought like this one (let alone a 20-plus-year mega-drought), except, apparently, staying in emergency mode and praying for rain.[...]
Now is a good time to pray for moisture... well, about any time is a good time to pray for moisture but especially now.
No, California won't run out of water in a year...
State water managers and other experts said Thursday that California is in no danger of running out of water in the next two years, even after an extremely dry January and paltry snowpack. Reservoirs will be replenished by additional snow and rainfall between now and the next rainy season, they said. The state can also draw from other sources, including groundwater supplies, while imposing tougher conservation measures.
"We have been in multiyear droughts and extended dry periods a number of times in the past, and we will be in the future," said Ted Thomas, a spokesman for the California Department of Water Resources. "In periods like this there will be shortages, of course, but the state as a whole is not going to run dry in a year or two years."The Department of Water Resources did not have a readily available estimate of the total water supply in California or the amount expected to be used over the next year.
Just because California is not exhausting its water supply "doesn't mean we're not in a crisis," said Leon Szeptycki, executive director of the Water in the West program at Stanford University, who called the state's snowpack, at 12% of average, "both bad for this year but also a troubling sign for the future.""I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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