The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[frank ryan]

Yea, I am really happy with the prospects of New York and California determining who is going to be President of the United States.

Everyone's vote should count the same.

[Uncle Ted]

Yea, I am really happy with the prospects of New York and California determining who is going to be President of the United States.

Does anyone even live in New York these days?

[byu71]

Everyone's vote should count the same.

A lot of people would agree with your opinion. My opinion is I don't want New York and California determining who the President is and a lot of people agree with me.

When enough people agree with you, there will be an amendment.

[Uncle Ted]

Everyone's vote should count the same.

But wasn't the electoral college designed to stop all the dumb voters from electing someone who is unfit to be PotUS? Oh wait, that sounds like both Trump and Hillary.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Yea, I am really happy with the prospects of New York and California determining who is going to be President of the United States.

I'm slow, but I don't understand this. I understand there are more people living here, but if the EC were abolished, each of our votes wouldn't/shouldn't count any more or less than those in the smaller states. Should New Hampshire, Iowa or the District of Columbia continue to have a grossly disproportionate say in electing our President than California or Texas?

[imanihonjin]

The electoral college is an anachronism and should be done away with.

Everyone's vote should count the same.

Good luck changing it. There is zero chance smaller states (population wise) would vote to cede more power to the bigger states. Smaller populace states and larger populace states are so different in how they view important issues. There is no way smaller populace states agree to amend the constitution to allow larger populace states to run rough shod over the smaller states.

Move on, you freaking lost.....quit whining about the rules and figure out how to nominate a decent candidate in 2020.

[Bo Diddley]

One of the reasons I don't worry about voter fraud is that the electoral college mitigates this somewhat. If every voted counted equally, I'd want a better verification process in place.

[byu71]

I'm slow, but I don't understand this. I understand there are more people living here, but if the EC were abolished, each of our votes wouldn't/shouldn't count any more or less than those in the smaller states. Should New Hampshire, Iowa or the District of Columbia continue to have a grossly disproportionate say in electing our President than California or Texas?

I am slower, but I don't understand how New Hampshire with 4 votes has a "grossly" disproportionate say to California with 55 votes.

I will stick with what the founders set up. I think they were inspired by God.

[Applejack]

A lot of people would agree with your opinion. My opinion is I don't want New York and California determining who the President is and a lot of people agree with me.

When enough people agree with you, there will be an amendment.

Yes, much better to have Ohio and Florida decide.

[Applejack]

I am slower, but I don't understand how New Hampshire with 4 votes has a "grossly" disproportionate say to California with 55 votes.

I will stick with what the founders set up. I think they were inspired by God.

LOL. Yes, everything as it was originally written in the Constitution was inspired by God. Good point.

[Applejack]

One of the reasons I don't worry about voter fraud is that the electoral college mitigates this somewhat. If every voted counted equally, I'd want a better verification process in place.

How is fraud mitigated if we only care about the voters in a handful of states (currently) instead of ALL the votes in the country? Seems like it should be the opposite.

[byu71]

Yes, much better to have Ohio and Florida decide.

Well, at least you and I can agree on something.

[Eddie]

What did they do to Piers Morgan? He use to be such a funny English Liberal.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...danger-it.html

Pretty sure Piers is just protecting 4 years of great material.

Everyone's vote should count the same.

There's a reason that the US is a representative democracy and not a straight democracy. It isn't perfect, but it does a pretty good job of protecting the little guys in the fly over states. And make no mistake - we are a country of united STATES. Every person's vote counts exactly the same as everyone else's within their state. To say that people's votes don't count the same is silly.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

I'm slow, but I don't understand this. I understand there are more people living here, but if the EC were abolished, each of our votes wouldn't/shouldn't count any more or less than those in the smaller states. Should New Hampshire, Iowa or the District of Columbia continue to have a grossly disproportionate say in electing our President than California or Texas?

When the state is an extreme outlier with essentially the rest of the country, then perhaps:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/di...rticle/2608766

[Bo Diddley]

How is fraud mitigated if we only care about the voters in a handful of states (currently) instead of ALL the votes in the country? Seems like it should be the opposite.

Right now if voter fraud pops up, it only affects certain electoral votes.