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  • Northwestcoug
    Cocked and Loaded
    • May 2011
    • 17920

    #11476
    Originally posted by YOhio View Post
    I agree with this. America should definitely have a congressional investigation to find out what really happened because they always seem to get to the bottom of the mystery. Or they could save time and money and just ask know-it-all Jeff Lebowski.
    Kidding aside, what else is there to do at this point? Trump is already dismissing the story; I assume he's taking it as a personal attack against his yuuuge victory. Other than the CIA/FBI publicly coming forward with the evidence, there needs to be some official hearing on it. Will congressional hearings also become a political circus? Maybe, but the evidence needs to be publicly aired.
    "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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    • Uncle Ted
      The Big 12 money shot.
      • Apr 2010
      • 28853

      #11477
      Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
      Kidding aside, what else is there to do at this point? Trump is already dismissing the story; I assume he's taking it as a personal attack against his yuuuge victory. Other than the CIA/FBI publicly coming forward with the evidence, there needs to be some official hearing on it. Will congressional hearings also become a political circus? Maybe, but the evidence needs to be publicly aired.
      I have little faith that the CIA or FBI will publish any kind of report on this subject publicly or any evidence will be shown. After Trump takes office maybe he should just say, "f*ck national security" and publish the CIA/FBI report on twitter. That would show Obama how government transparency really works.
      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • Walter Sobchak
        Adventurer
        • Oct 2009
        • 3815

        #11478
        Originally posted by YOhio View Post
        Yes. The Kremlin-sponsored rapist holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy said it's not true!
        You missed the point. There is not a lick of evidence that the Russians, or anyone else, "hacked" the DNC/Podesta emails. They were accessed via phishing and leaked to Assange. It could have been Russia yes, but it could have anyone. It is nearly impossible to trace the source of a phishing attack. Just ask any cyber-security expert (such as UT).

        Assange denies it was the Russians. Don't believe him, fine. Is the former UK ambassador referenced in the Guardian article also a Russian stooge? The truth is out there YO. Keep digging. Pass the tin foil.

        A key element of this CIA campaign is that the same Russian spooks also "hacked" the RNC, yet nothing has been posted on Wikileaks. Why? Well, because "the truth is out there"... e.g. Russia wanted to rig the election. However, if this was the case, why were e-mails from Colin Powell posted on DC Leaks (which were highly critical of Trump) as well as other routine e-mails from various GOP operatives?

        Because the CIA says "Russia!" and so everyone jumps. Don't be fooled.
        You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
        Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski

        Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
        You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst

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        • Uncle Ted
          The Big 12 money shot.
          • Apr 2010
          • 28853

          #11479
          Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
          You missed the point. There is not a lick of evidence that the Russians, or anyone else, "hacked" the DNC/Podesta emails. They were accessed via phishing and leaked to Assange. It could have been Russia yes, but it could have anyone. It is nearly impossible to trace the source of a phishing attack. Just ask any cyber-security expert (such as UT).

          Assange denies it was the Russians. Don't believe him, fine. Is the former UK ambassador referenced in the Guardian article also a Russian stooge? The truth is out there YO. Keep digging. Pass the tin foil.

          A key element of this CIA campaign is that the same Russian spooks also "hacked" the RNC, yet nothing has been posted on Wikileaks. Why? Well, because "the truth is out there"... e.g. Russia wanted to rig the election. However, if this was the case, why were e-mails from Colin Powell posted on DC Leaks (which were highly critical of Trump) as well as other routine e-mails from various GOP operatives?

          Because the CIA says "Russia!" and so everyone jumps. Don't be fooled.
          Nope, nope, nope... those Colin Powell emails obviously came from a RNC insider. The Ruskies would never give up emails that dis their boy, Trump.
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • YOhio
            Hipster Mode
            • Nov 2008
            • 26165

            #11480
            Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
            You missed the point. There is not a lick of evidence that the Russians, or anyone else, "hacked" the DNC/Podesta emails. They were accessed via phishing and leaked to Assange. It could have been Russia yes, but it could have anyone. It is nearly impossible to trace the source of a phishing attack. Just ask any cyber-security expert (such as UT).

            Assange denies it was the Russians. Don't believe him, fine. Is the former UK ambassador referenced in the Guardian article also a Russian stooge? The truth is out there YO. Keep digging. Pass the tin foil.

            A key element of this CIA campaign is that the same Russian spooks also "hacked" the RNC, yet nothing has been posted on Wikileaks. Why? Well, because "the truth is out there"... e.g. Russia wanted to rig the election. However, if this was the case, why were e-mails from Colin Powell posted on DC Leaks (which were highly critical of Trump) as well as other routine e-mails from various GOP operatives?

            Because the CIA says "Russia!" and so everyone jumps. Don't be fooled.
            So I just think there are some better arguments to be made, which you do very well, than referencing Assange. Also the UK Ambassador is a close associate of Assange so he is pretty horrible, too.

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            • Uncle Ted
              The Big 12 money shot.
              • Apr 2010
              • 28853

              #11481
              Originally posted by YOhio View Post
              So I just think there are some better arguments to be made, which you do very well, than referencing Assange. Also the UK Ambassador is a close associate of Assange so he is pretty horrible, too.
              Yeah, we need Colin Powell with that CIA report in hand in front of the UN to set the truth straight.
              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • Color Me Badd Fan
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 12519

                #11482
                John Podesta, the guy whose password was "pa$$word," has called for an intelligence briefing before the electoral college meets.

                In other words, the big media push of this story happens to coincide with the Clinton people trying to muddle the electoral college when they meet. Also pretty funny is the fact that wikileaks showed how the Clinton people and the media got together on numerous occasions to screw Sanders, Jeb Bush, etc.

                Is there any info now that's available that wasn't available before? As far as I can tell, the majority of those hacked emails came from John Podesta's account. Apparently, this nefarious intelligence gathering ability of the Russians includes logging into email accounts with dumb passwords.

                There's no info on hacked voting machines. Is it just the wikileaks stuff? Sure the Russians are behind that, but what exactly are we supposed to do now? Pretend that the information was never released and tell everyone to forget about it and voted again?
                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                • myboynoah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 21719

                  #11483
                  Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                  Yeah, we need Colin Powell with that CIA report in hand in front of the UN to set the truth straight.
                  Yeah, we don't know what the CIA is saying, the conclusions they've drawn, and the information up which they base those conclusions.

                  Despite JL's name calling, YO pretty much nails it. Especially on how Obama has allowed the Russians to fill the void he left behind. Syria is full on mess and the Russians are now calling the shots. How pathetic.
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                  For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69474

                    #11484
                    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                    Yeah, we don't know what the CIA is saying, the conclusions they've drawn, and the information up which they base those conclusions.

                    Despite JL's name calling, YO pretty much nails it. Especially on how Obama has allowed the Russians to fill the void he left behind. Syria is full on mess and the Russians are now calling the shots. How pathetic.
                    lol.

                    Snowflakes.
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • myboynoah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 21719

                      #11485
                      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      lol.

                      Snowflakes.
                      I don't know what that means.
                      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                      • BlueK
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 7140

                        #11486
                        Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                        Yeah, we don't know what the CIA is saying, the conclusions they've drawn, and the information up which they base those conclusions.

                        Despite JL's name calling, YO pretty much nails it. Especially on how Obama has allowed the Russians to fill the void he left behind. Syria is full on mess and the Russians are now calling the shots. How pathetic.
                        Doesn't Trump want Russia to be calling the shots?

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                        • wuapinmon
                          Soul Plumber
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 30711

                          #11487
                          Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                          I don't know what that means.
                          snowflakes is a polite way of calling people pussies.
                          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                          • Walter Sobchak
                            Adventurer
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 3815

                            #11488
                            Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                            Doesn't Trump want Russia to be calling the shots?
                            Does anyone know what Trump wants?

                            I believe Trump has gone on record saying he opposes regime change in Syria. But Trump "on record" is practically meaningless; he could have just said that because Ms. Clinton was "for" it.
                            You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
                            Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski

                            Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
                            You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst

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                            • YOhio
                              Hipster Mode
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 26165

                              #11489
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              lol.

                              Snowflakes.
                              This is a Hannity take.

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                              • YOhio
                                Hipster Mode
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 26165

                                #11490
                                Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                                snowflakes is a polite way of calling people pussies.
                                Coming from JL it's like being called a pussy by this guy.

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