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Kidding aside, what else is there to do at this point? Trump is already dismissing the story; I assume he's taking it as a personal attack against his yuuuge victory. Other than the CIA/FBI publicly coming forward with the evidence, there needs to be some official hearing on it. Will congressional hearings also become a political circus? Maybe, but the evidence needs to be publicly aired."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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I have little faith that the CIA or FBI will publish any kind of report on this subject publicly or any evidence will be shown. After Trump takes office maybe he should just say, "f*ck national security" and publish the CIA/FBI report on twitter. That would show Obama how government transparency really works.Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostKidding aside, what else is there to do at this point? Trump is already dismissing the story; I assume he's taking it as a personal attack against his yuuuge victory. Other than the CIA/FBI publicly coming forward with the evidence, there needs to be some official hearing on it. Will congressional hearings also become a political circus? Maybe, but the evidence needs to be publicly aired."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
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"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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You missed the point. There is not a lick of evidence that the Russians, or anyone else, "hacked" the DNC/Podesta emails. They were accessed via phishing and leaked to Assange. It could have been Russia yes, but it could have anyone. It is nearly impossible to trace the source of a phishing attack. Just ask any cyber-security expert (such as UT).Originally posted by YOhio View PostYes. The Kremlin-sponsored rapist holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy said it's not true!
Assange denies it was the Russians. Don't believe him, fine. Is the former UK ambassador referenced in the Guardian article also a Russian stooge? The truth is out there YO. Keep digging. Pass the tin foil.
A key element of this CIA campaign is that the same Russian spooks also "hacked" the RNC, yet nothing has been posted on Wikileaks. Why? Well, because "the truth is out there"... e.g. Russia wanted to rig the election. However, if this was the case, why were e-mails from Colin Powell posted on DC Leaks (which were highly critical of Trump) as well as other routine e-mails from various GOP operatives?
Because the CIA says "Russia!" and so everyone jumps. Don't be fooled.You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
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Nope, nope, nope... those Colin Powell emails obviously came from a RNC insider. The Ruskies would never give up emails that dis their boy, Trump.Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View PostYou missed the point. There is not a lick of evidence that the Russians, or anyone else, "hacked" the DNC/Podesta emails. They were accessed via phishing and leaked to Assange. It could have been Russia yes, but it could have anyone. It is nearly impossible to trace the source of a phishing attack. Just ask any cyber-security expert (such as UT).
Assange denies it was the Russians. Don't believe him, fine. Is the former UK ambassador referenced in the Guardian article also a Russian stooge? The truth is out there YO. Keep digging. Pass the tin foil.
A key element of this CIA campaign is that the same Russian spooks also "hacked" the RNC, yet nothing has been posted on Wikileaks. Why? Well, because "the truth is out there"... e.g. Russia wanted to rig the election. However, if this was the case, why were e-mails from Colin Powell posted on DC Leaks (which were highly critical of Trump) as well as other routine e-mails from various GOP operatives?
Because the CIA says "Russia!" and so everyone jumps. Don't be fooled."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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So I just think there are some better arguments to be made, which you do very well, than referencing Assange. Also the UK Ambassador is a close associate of Assange so he is pretty horrible, too.Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View PostYou missed the point. There is not a lick of evidence that the Russians, or anyone else, "hacked" the DNC/Podesta emails. They were accessed via phishing and leaked to Assange. It could have been Russia yes, but it could have anyone. It is nearly impossible to trace the source of a phishing attack. Just ask any cyber-security expert (such as UT).
Assange denies it was the Russians. Don't believe him, fine. Is the former UK ambassador referenced in the Guardian article also a Russian stooge? The truth is out there YO. Keep digging. Pass the tin foil.
A key element of this CIA campaign is that the same Russian spooks also "hacked" the RNC, yet nothing has been posted on Wikileaks. Why? Well, because "the truth is out there"... e.g. Russia wanted to rig the election. However, if this was the case, why were e-mails from Colin Powell posted on DC Leaks (which were highly critical of Trump) as well as other routine e-mails from various GOP operatives?
Because the CIA says "Russia!" and so everyone jumps. Don't be fooled.
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Yeah, we need Colin Powell with that CIA report in hand in front of the UN to set the truth straight.Originally posted by YOhio View PostSo I just think there are some better arguments to be made, which you do very well, than referencing Assange. Also the UK Ambassador is a close associate of Assange so he is pretty horrible, too."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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John Podesta, the guy whose password was "pa$$word," has called for an intelligence briefing before the electoral college meets.
In other words, the big media push of this story happens to coincide with the Clinton people trying to muddle the electoral college when they meet. Also pretty funny is the fact that wikileaks showed how the Clinton people and the media got together on numerous occasions to screw Sanders, Jeb Bush, etc.
Is there any info now that's available that wasn't available before? As far as I can tell, the majority of those hacked emails came from John Podesta's account. Apparently, this nefarious intelligence gathering ability of the Russians includes logging into email accounts with dumb passwords.
There's no info on hacked voting machines. Is it just the wikileaks stuff? Sure the Russians are behind that, but what exactly are we supposed to do now? Pretend that the information was never released and tell everyone to forget about it and voted again?Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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Yeah, we don't know what the CIA is saying, the conclusions they've drawn, and the information up which they base those conclusions.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostYeah, we need Colin Powell with that CIA report in hand in front of the UN to set the truth straight.
Despite JL's name calling, YO pretty much nails it. Especially on how Obama has allowed the Russians to fill the void he left behind. Syria is full on mess and the Russians are now calling the shots. How pathetic.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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lol.Originally posted by myboynoah View PostYeah, we don't know what the CIA is saying, the conclusions they've drawn, and the information up which they base those conclusions.
Despite JL's name calling, YO pretty much nails it. Especially on how Obama has allowed the Russians to fill the void he left behind. Syria is full on mess and the Russians are now calling the shots. How pathetic.
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I don't know what that means.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Postlol.
Snowflakes.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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Doesn't Trump want Russia to be calling the shots?Originally posted by myboynoah View PostYeah, we don't know what the CIA is saying, the conclusions they've drawn, and the information up which they base those conclusions.
Despite JL's name calling, YO pretty much nails it. Especially on how Obama has allowed the Russians to fill the void he left behind. Syria is full on mess and the Russians are now calling the shots. How pathetic.
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snowflakes is a polite way of calling people pussies.Originally posted by myboynoah View PostI don't know what that means."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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Does anyone know what Trump wants?Originally posted by BlueK View PostDoesn't Trump want Russia to be calling the shots?
I believe Trump has gone on record saying he opposes regime change in Syria. But Trump "on record" is practically meaningless; he could have just said that because Ms. Clinton was "for" it.You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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