The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[byu71]

not saying you're right or wrong, but in fairness, the majority of the country are a bunch of dipshits.

Hillary vs Donald for the Presidency of the United States confirms what you just said.

[BlueK]

He knows it, you know it, we all know it...

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I would think it was sad if he weren't such a scumbag.

[Northwestcoug]

not saying you're right or wrong, but in fairness, the majority of the country are a bunch of dipshits.

Hillary vs Donald for the Presidency of the United States confirms what you just said.

I cannot argue with that.

[byu71]

I cannot argue with that.

I was about to edit that I do know some Hillary voters aren't dip shits and some Trump ones aren't, but most are.

[Jeff Lebowski]

How do you define "pretty good?" I'm not voting for Trump, but Hillary will be a disaster. She has no considers herself above any law, is entirely self-serving, and either doesn't understand or disregards the economic incentives that make us the world's largest economy. She'll nominate pro-regulation, liberal justices who will further erode congressional power and constitutionally protected rights, while empowering federal agencies, making the presidency more like a dictatorship. Socially, she'll be little better than Trump because her incentive will be to divide the country and blame white privilege (irony alert) rather than work to solve important domestic and social issues. I'll stop there, but I think you need to lay down the crack pipe if you believe she will be a good president.

This is the first time the economy hasn't returned to trend line growth after a recession in over a hundred years. Obama didn't bother to pass a budget for years, but he took a budget with a $700 billion one-time TARP expenditure in it and made it the new baseline. He is constantly proposing new taxes that would get passed were it not for a GOP Congress, and if you don't think the ACA was an enormous tax hike, you are wrong - just ask Chief Justice Roberts. Despite Iraq begging him to leave a presence, he completely pulled out with our military, enabling ISIS to invade and acquire our modern weaponry - but don't worry, ISIS is just the JV. Finally, every time there is a shooting, Obama makes mention of new gun laws that would erode gun rights. Further, he has proposed legislation that would destroy the energy sector, and since we are the the world's leading energy producer that's kind of a big deal, and he is consistent with a divisive "us against them" message on all social issues. Obama has been every bit the disaster we thought he'd be. I agree with you though, Hillary won't change the script.

If you want to engage in some fear-mongering about Hillary, you might want to pick a different benchmark. That second paragraph involves some creative spin and cherry-picking.

[Moliere]

Cowboy is killing it in this thread.

Obama has been mediocre. Clinton has always been an ineffective leader, which means she'll get very little done, so status quo until she's voted out in 4 years. She'll be mediocre.


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[Jeff Lebowski]

Cowboy is killing it in this thread.

Obama has been mediocre. Clinton has always been an ineffective leader, which means she'll get very little done, so status quo until she's voted out in 4 years. She'll be mediocre.


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Oh, so now we are arguing that he is just "mediocre". OK, move the goalposts! lol.

[byu71]

Oh, so now we are arguing that he is just "mediocre". OK, move the goalposts! lol.

You are letting too many people live in here rent free. It is too crowded.

[creekster]

If you want to engage in some fear-mongering about Hillary, you might want to pick a different benchmark. That second paragraph involves some creative spin and cherry-picking.

What exactly do you contend is cherry picked or is an inaccurate benchmark?

[Topper]

Cowboy is killing it in this thread.

Obama has been mediocre. Clinton has always been an ineffective leader, which means she'll get very little done, so status quo until she's voted out in 4 years. She'll be mediocre.


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I agree. Voters for Clinton, Champions of Mediocrity!

[BlueK]

Putin is going to be seriously pissed when Trump gets blown out in this election. He may even fire some of his top hackers.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Putin is going to be seriously pissed when Trump gets blown out in this election. He may even fire some of his top hackers.

Time to look at the positive, Hillary's going to want to get some payback against Putin. No more shit-eating grins with a stupid reset button.

[frank ryan]

Time to look at the positive, Hillary's going to want to get some payback against Putin. No more shitW-eating grins with a stupid reset button.

My biggest gripe with Obama has been his foreign policy, esp. with Russia. If nothing else, I think Hillary is capable of being more assertive and aggressive with those fuckheads in the Kremlin.

[Moliere]

My biggest gripe with Obama has been his foreign policy, esp. with Russia. If nothing else, I think Hillary is capable of being more assertive and aggressive with those fuckheads in the Kremlin.

Why? She certainly couldn't do it before. What has changed?

I personally see her being a very ineffective leader in the similar vein as her time as Sec of State. She won't screw it up too badly (well, ISIS was a pretty bad screw up but that's only agitator bit on her) but she won't be considered a great president.


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[falafel]

Trump has been pushing the hastag #DraintheSwamp since at least last night (maybe for a while, but I just noticed it last night). What is that supposed to mean?

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