The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

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  • Uncle Ted
    The Big 12 money shot.
    • Apr 2010
    • 28853

    #5101
    Trump calls Geneva Conventions 'the problem'

    Donald Trump believes American troops are afraid to fight for fear of violating the Geneva Conventions, he said Wednesday.

    “The problem is we have the Geneva Conventions, all sorts of rules and regulations, so the soldiers are afraid to fight,” Trump said at an afternoon town hall during remarks on torture.
    [...]
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-g...entions-221394

    I am guessing that Drumpf will still lose the general election even if Hillary gets thrown in jail for that email server thing.
    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • Bo Diddley
      Senior
      • Jul 2012
      • 18716

      #5102
      Afraid to fight because of Geneva Conventions?

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      • YOhio
        Hipster Mode
        • Nov 2008
        • 26165

        #5103
        Trump would be too unbelievable as a character in a spy novel.

        In preparation for what will surely be a heated Republican convention, Donald Trump has hired an experienced political operative to help wrangle GOP delegates: Paul Manafort, a strategist with three decades of Republican conventions under his belt, who has also worked for some unsavory international clients.
        That roster includes the pro-Russian former president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, who was deposed in a popular revolution in 2013.
        As Quartz reported earlier this month, Trump’s foreign policy advisors also include Carter Page, a former advisor and current shareholder in the state-controlled Russian natural gas giant, Gazprom, who has advocated for a less adversarial US stance toward Moscow. Bloomberg spoke with Sergey Yatsenko, a former Gazprom official who is now an official adviser to Page’s firm, who said Page “understands what’s going on in Russia … He doesn’t make strong judgments.”
        Manafort worked with the Ukrainian president in the several years leading up to his 2010 election win. Three years later, Yanukovych fled the country, ousted from his seat by the pro-European and pro-democracy protests.

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        • clackamascoug
          Banned
          • Dec 2009
          • 9709

          #5104
          Is the Constitution hanging by a thread yet?

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          • byu71
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 22070

            #5105
            It was hanging by a thread when Romney ran against Obama. Due to Romney's loss the thread has snapped.

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            • frank ryan
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 12268

              #5106
              Originally posted by byu71 View Post
              It was hanging by a thread when Romney ran against Obama. Due to Romney's loss the thread has snapped.
              What happened? How did it snap?

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              • SeattleUte
                Faith crisis consultant
                • Nov 2008
                • 20837

                #5107
                Trump is shaping up as a catastrophe for the erstwhile Republican party but not so much for America. The New York Times has reported exhaustively that his support stems substantially from segments of racist and sexist motivated voters not only in the South but in Northeastern blue states. Anyone who has lived in Northeastern blue states knows that there is plenty of that there--not just among angry lower educated white voters but white collar voters as well (though the latter group are more discreet about this). Hence, 49% of primary voters in Massachusetts supported Trump, higher even than 47% in Mississippi, and these blue states are populous, delivering a lot of delegates. But the problem for Trump is that he can't win these states in the general election because northeastern blue states have become inevitably democratic states in the general election. This will be even more true as Trump has mobilized the opposition to those angry voters who support him.

                http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/27/up...ters.html?_r=0

                The box Trump has put him and the Republican party into is highlighted by the fact that 47% of Republican women recently polled say that can't vote for him. 70% of all women say they can't vote for him. And this was before his disastrous comment about abortion yesterday. The damage he did to himself among women can't be overstated.

                This month, about half (47 percent) of Republican female primary voters said they could not imagine themselves voting for Trump.


                The general election is going to be apocalyptic for Trump and the Republican party. Apparently, however, Trump is a reflection of a dominant segment of the Republican party. Four years ago we saw the outcome of the narrowing Republican base--with its dogmatic hate speech about same sex marriage, immigration, contraception and Planned Parenthood, etc. I don't even trust those Republican leaders who condemn Trump because I think that in their heart of hearts they're not much different. Cruz is loathsome!

                So I say let the Republican party burn! Let it burn!
                Last edited by SeattleUte; 03-31-2016, 10:08 AM.
                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                --Jonathan Swift

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                • creekster
                  It is NOT a monkey!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 22661

                  #5108
                  Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                  Trump is shaping up as a catastrophe for the erstwhile Republican party but not so much for America. The New York Times has reported exhaustively that his support stems substantially from segments of racist and sexist motivated voters not only in the South but in Northeastern blue states. Anyone who has lived in Northeastern blue states knows that there is plenty of that there--not just among angry lower educated white voters but white collar voters as well (though the latter group are more discreet about this). Hence, 49% of primary voters in Massachusetts supported Trump, higher even than 47% in Mississippi, and these blue states are populous, delivering a lot of delegates. But the problem for Trump is that he can't win these states in the general election because northeastern blue states have become inevitably democratic states in the general election. This will be even more true as Trump has mobilized the opposition to those angry voters who support him.

                  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/27/up...ters.html?_r=0

                  The box Trump has put him and the Republican party into is highlighted by the fact that 47% of Republican women recently polled say that can't vote for him. 70% of all women say they can't vote for him. And this was before his disastrous comment about abortion yesterday. The damage he did to himself among women can't be overstated.

                  This month, about half (47 percent) of Republican female primary voters said they could not imagine themselves voting for Trump.


                  The general election is going to be apocalyptic for Trump and the Republican party. Apparently, however, Trump is a reflection of a dominant segment of the Republican party. Four years ago we saw the outcome of the narrowing Republican base--with its dogmatic hate speech about same sex marriage, immigration, contraception and Planned Parenthood, etc. I don't even trust those Republican leaders who condemn Trump because I think that in their heart of hearts they're not much different. Cruz is loathsome!

                  So I say let the Republican party burn! Let it burn!
                  So Utah republicans (which is to say almost all of the mormons in the state) are neither racist nor sexist, it seems.
                  PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69478

                    #5109
                    Originally posted by creekster View Post
                    So Utah republicans (which is to say almost all of the mormons in the state) are neither racist nor sexist, it seems.


                    SUwish!
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                    • SeattleUte
                      Faith crisis consultant
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 20837

                      #5110
                      Originally posted by creekster View Post
                      So Utah republicans (which is to say almost all of the mormons in the state) are neither racist nor sexist, it seems.
                      I think they have mostly put their racism behind them. To the extent it lingers, it's not as aggressive and angry as that of the people I'm talking about in the above post. Utah is kind of insular. But sexism and homophobia remain a big problem. However, Utah sexism and Trump's misogyny are not the same thing--they're are different phenomena altogether.

                      But that's not all. Utahns don't like blustery, profane men like Trump. The archetype of a Mormon man is general conference intonation, superficially nice, etc. What Mormons do to their men is lamentable as well.
                      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                      --Jonathan Swift

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                      • Applejack
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3812

                        #5111
                        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        I think they have mostly put their racism behind them. To the extent it lingers, it's not as aggressive and angry as that of the people I'm talking about in the above post. Utah is kind of insular. But sexism and homophobia remain a big problem. However, Utah sexism and Trump's misogyny are not the same thing--they're are different phenomena altogether.

                        But that's not all. Utahns don't like blustery, profane men like Trump. The archetype of a Mormon man is general conference intonation, superficially nice, etc. What Mormons do to their men is lamentable as well.
                        I'll agree with SU here (although, as per usual, he has better prose): Utah is one of the least racist places you'll ever meet (kind of like the Donald, actually). But it has a sexist problem.

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                        • CardiacCoug
                          вот так штука
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11013

                          #5112
                          Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                          I'll agree with SU here (although, as per usual, he has better prose): Utah is one of the least racist places you'll ever meet (kind of like the Donald, actually). But it has a sexist problem.
                          Yeah I think Utah voting for socialist Bernie over Hillary is ridiculous and pretty sexist.

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                          • imanihonjin
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 3772

                            #5113
                            Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                            Yeah I think Utah voting for socialist Bernie over Hillary is ridiculous and pretty sexist.
                            You serious, Clark?

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                            • creekster
                              It is NOT a monkey!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 22661

                              #5114
                              Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
                              You serious, Clark?
                              OF course. ANy tijme HIllary loses it's due to sexism. A female friend of mine told me that just the other day.
                              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                              • Applejack
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3812

                                #5115
                                Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                                Yeah I think Utah voting for socialist Bernie over Hillary is ridiculous and pretty sexist.
                                I don't know if this is TIC or not, but using a democratic caucus in Utah as an example of anything is not a good idea.

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