The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[il Padrino Ute]

I thought you hated Adele

I do hate Adele. Why?

[Uncle Ted]

DC Mayor Vetoes Wage Bill Affecting Wal-Mart

Mayor Vincent Gray vetoed a bill Thursday that would force Wal-Mart and other large retailers to pay their employees at least $12.50 an hour, calling it a "job killer" that would not advance the goal of a living wage for District of Columbia workers.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/d...-mart-20235465

I think the republican party has found their man for 2016. The only problem is he is a democrat.

[CardiacCoug]

All this talk about Elizabeth Warren being a strong potential challenger to Hillary on the Democratic side seems nuts to me.

Really? You can lie about being a Native American for decades and then run for President like it's no big deal? Wasn't there also something about her practicing law without a license?

Not to mention that Warren just has no charisma whatsoever. To me she's an even less likeable version of Hillary with more baggage.

[Omaha 680]

All this talk about Elizabeth Warren being a strong potential challenger to Hillary on the Democratic side seems nuts to me.

Really? You can lie about being a Native American for decades and then run for President like it's no big deal? Wasn't there also something about her practicing law without a license?

Not to mention that Warren just has no charisma whatsoever. To me she's an even less likeable version of Hillary with more baggage.

If she is there to push Hillary to the left in the primary that may be what the republican nominee will need to win. The republicans don't have a great stable of candidates right now but what they do have going for them is 2014 (and probably 2016) will not be good years to be hard left.

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[happyone]

All this talk about Elizabeth Warren being a strong potential challenger to Hillary on the Democratic side seems nuts to me.

Really? You can lie about being a Native American for decades and then run for President like it's no big deal? Wasn't there also something about her practicing law without a license?

Not to mention that Warren just has no charisma whatsoever. To me she's an even less likeable version of Hillary with more baggage.

At the moment she seems to making all the right noises - I'm not running and I am supporting Hillary. It will be interesting to see if she changes her tune.

[Maximus]

Christie or bust.

[All-American]

Christie or bust.

That's probably right. Even if you like what Cruz and Paul have to say, I doubt their ability to gain and hold the near-universal support a presidential candidate must garner to win.

[Applejack]

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I think the republican party has found their man for 2016. The only problem is he is a democrat.

You can have him! He's unlikely to even run for reelection because of corruption allegations. If corruption is your main hurdle to winning an election in D.C., you aren't doing corruption correctly.

[Omaha 680]

Christie or bust.

What about Christie's bust?

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[All-American]

Scott Walker throws his hat in the ring.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...06210388287976

[Lost Student]

Scott Walker throws his hat in the ring.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...06210388287976

Too many people in politics today spend their time trying not to lose instead of trying to do the right thing. They would better serve the country by worrying more about the next generation than the next election. The irony is that politicians who spend more time worrying about the next generation than about the next election often tend to win the next election—because voters are starved for leadership.

I wish the bolded part were true, but I don't know that it is. Politicians that tell people the hard truth, that don't promise all sorts of free stuff, have lost recent elections.

[Pelado]

An interview with former Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer, the Democrat most likely to challenge Hillary Clinton in 2016.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...ly.single.html

DW: There isn’t any danger in letting the Taliban take over the country?

BS: Take over what? This is the biggest joke in the whole world. What you do when you go to war is destroy enough of the other side’s infrastructure, and demonstrate you can destroy even more, that they decide they can’t keep it up or they’ll have nothing left. But to the extent that people in Afghanistan have anything, it’s been built by us. They live in stone houses. They have no infrastructure. What the Russians put there and what we’ve put there are the only things of any value. Oh, apart from the poppies they’re growing.

DW: I suppose the question is whether we should worry about blowback, years later, after leaving the country.

BS: If it all goes to hell in a handbasket, that’s fine. That happened after Alexander the Great left; that happened after the Russians left. Who cares? They live in the Stone Age. If you ask generals whether we should stay in a war a little longer, that’s like asking a barber whether you need a haircut.

DW: Do you think the Affordable Care Act can be made to work?

BS: I will give you not just how this thing should have been written, but what it will get to be, because what we have right now will not work. No. 1: You pass national health insurance laws that say you can’t discriminate against women, charge them higher premiums than men of the same age, you can’t discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions, you can’t have annual caps. Then you allow insurance companies to compete wherever they want, in any state. Boom. The second thing is, you say to every citizen in the United States, now you have the option to buy into Medicare.

We just need to act like capitalists, not socialists. We need to negotiate to buy medicine. Now, what’s interesting is that the detractors hear that and say—this is like socialized medicine. No! Are you kidding me? France, the United Kingdom: They negotiate like capitalists to buy their medicine. The United States? We say to the pharmaceutical companies, how much would you like this for? We continue to pay them three times what they sell the same medicines for all over the world. Right after the bill was passed, big pharma was running ads for all the Democrats who voted for this thing. Even in Montana. What’d they get out of it? They now have a lot more money.

DW: Where do you think he actually ranks in the last 50–100 years of Democratic presidents?

BS: In part what a president is able to do is elevate, through rhetoric, issues that need to be elevated. I’d give him an A in that area. His ability to communicate, to deliver the message about the values that set us aside as Americans, is very good. I just don’t think his administration has been very good at doing things, about organizing things. It’s not just about the rollout of the Affordable Care Act. As governor I had four years to work with the Bush administration and four years to work with the Obama administration, and they’re just not good at getting things done.

[imanihonjin]

Within the last year, Bob McDonnell was a person that some thought may challenge for the Republican party. Things have fallen fast for the man.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...d86_story.html

[Pelado]

Broaddrick claims that two weeks after the rape, at a political event, Hillary approached her. "She came over to me, took ahold of my hand and said, 'I've heard so much about you and I've been dying to meet you. ... I just want you to know how much that Bill and I appreciate what you do for him.' ...

"This woman, this little, soft-spoken -- pardon me for the phrase -- dowdy woman that would seem very unassertive, took ahold of my hand and squeezed it and said, 'Do you understand? Everything that you do.' I could have passed out at that moment and I got my hand from hers and I left. ... She was just holding onto my hand. Because I had started to turn away from her and she held onto my hand and she said, 'Do you understand? EVERYTHING that you do,' I mean, cold chills went up my spine. That's the first time I became afraid of that woman."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...#ixzz2sZzVk1uL

[All-American]

2016 candidates audition at CPAC.

http://m.theatlantic.com/politics/ar...erence/284310/

I get the sense that Rand Paul is surging.