The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[byu71]

Not sure I could vote for Hillary after seeing that picture :gross:

That is a bit harsh. Remember this is a 67 year old woman.

From the waste up she was not that bad in her younger years.

[creekster]

TFrom the waste up she was not that bad in her younger years.

If you say so

[Donuthole]

The 2016 Presidential Election Primary Thread

That is a bit harsh. Remember this is a 67 year old woman.

From the waste up she was not that bad in her younger years.

I'm surprised to see you admit she's anything more than that. Progress.

[YOhio]

You guys are pigs.

[byu71]

If you say so

Can you tell me you haven't ever seen a nerdy looking girl and the more you look at her the more you realize she actually is pretty sexy?

[byu71]

I'm surprised to see you admit she's anything more than that. Progress.

I am glad you at least catch the nuances. Others on here just pass it off as I am illiterate.

[GeoArch]

It's such a double standard in politics that women have to look good and have policy you agree with while men just have to have policy you agree with. If you don't like Hilary's policy, fine, but where are the less than flattering pictures of the male presidential candidates?

[byu71]

It's such a double standard in politics that women have to look good and have policy you agree with while men just have to have policy you agree with. If you don't like Hilary's policy, fine, but where are the less than flattering pictures of the male presidential candidates?

It is also such a double standard that Republican candidates have to have policy you agree with but they have to be considered smart and not dumb.

If women have to look good then how do you explain, Barbara Boxer, Pilosi, Hillary (she got elected) Elizabeth Warren, Patti Murray and Eleanor Roosevelt?

[GeoArch]

It is also such a double standard that Republican candidates have to have policy you agree with but they have to be considered smart and not dumb.

If women have to look good then how do you explain, Barbara Boxer, Pilosi, Hillary (she got elected) Elizabeth Warren, Patti Murray and Eleanor Roosevelt?

The difference is that when a disagreement arises, people attack women's appearance in addition to their policy, not just their policy. I've seen interviews with female politicians from both parties where one of the interview questions is about their clothes. They never ask the male politicians about their clothes. When people get mad with a women's policies, the appearance-based insults come out (fat cow, cankles, etc.). I just compare the criticism of Colin Powell vs. Condoleezza Rice as Secretary of State. A lot of times the criticism of Condoleeza Rice included appearance-based insults.

[byu71]

The difference is that when a disagreement arises, people attack women's appearance in addition to their policy, not just their policy. I've seen interviews with female politicians from both parties where one of the interview questions is about their clothes. They never ask the male politicians about their clothes. When people get mad with a women's policies, the appearance-based insults come out (fat cow, cankles, etc.). I just compare the criticism of Colin Powell vs. Condoleezza Rice as Secretary of State. A lot of times the criticism of Condoleeza Rice included appearance-based insults.

OK. I don't quite get the women are picked on thing, but I also don't understand why old people don't get more respect.

Our experiences though just may be different. Like Saturday when we talked about playing another 9 holes and the two married guys said they had to get home or their wives would kick their butts.

[Commando]

I think it's dumb to include jabs at a person's appearance when contemplating their viability as a candidate. However, it has always been part of my fool-proof formula for predicting the winner of the Presidential election. That formula is: "The Better Looking Candidate= Election Winner." Go ahead and trace that back to the beginning of television, when Nixon took on JFK and lost because he's obviously not Jack Kennedy looks-wise. (In post-debate polls, those who saw the TV debate crowned JFK the winner while radio listeners sided with Nixon. I understand that this doesn't take into account the respective divide in choice of media among Republicans/Democrats, but is yet remarkable).

Romney was a worthy contender in this last one with his dashing good looks, but Obama matched those good looks and added an easy going manner and disarming smile. McCain had no shot. W was better looking and more charming than Kerry and Gore by far. Clinton was more charming than Dole and George Sr., who beat out fugly Dukakis. Reagan killed Carter and Mondale, etc. The formula holds up pretty well. I think Mitt would take Hilary going away.

[Commando]

It's such a double standard in politics that women have to look good and have policy you agree with while men just have to have policy you agree with. If you don't like Hilary's policy, fine, but where are the less than flattering pictures of the male presidential candidates?

have you not seen the glory that is the corn dog meme? Those are really pretty ingenious pieces of smear campaigning that are pretty destructive.

[byu71]

I think it's dumb to include jabs at a person's appearance when contemplating their viability as a candidate. However, it has always been part of my fool-proof formula for predicting the winner of the Presidential election. That formula is: "The Better Looking Candidate= Election Winner." Go ahead and trace that back to the beginning of television, when Nixon took on JFK and lost because he's obviously not Jack Kennedy looks-wise. (In post-debate polls, those who saw the TV debate crowned JFK the winner while radio listeners sided with Nixon. I understand that this doesn't take into account the respective divide in choice of media among Republicans/Democrats, but is yet remarkable).

Romney was a worthy contender in this last one with his dashing good looks, but Obama matched those good looks and added an easy going manner and disarming smile. McCain had no shot. W was better looking and more charming than Kerry and Gore by far. Clinton was more charming than Dole and George Sr., who beat out fugly Dukakis. Reagan killed Carter and Mondale, etc. The formula holds up pretty well. I think Mitt would take Hilary going away.

The only reason the Republicans have a prayer in '16 is because the press doesn't particularly like Hillary. They won't put their energy into getting her elected. If they get an Elizabeth Warren to run instead of Hillary, all bets are off even though Warren isn't exactly a pretty face.

[dabrockster]

If you say so

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[Pelado]

It's such a double standard in politics that women have to look good and have policy you agree with while men just have to have policy you agree with. If you don't like Hilary's policy, fine, but where are the less than flattering pictures of the male presidential candidates?

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