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  • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Here is the funny thing about pat-yourself-on-the-back statements like this: If you are going to claim that you knew it all along, you have to simultaneously make a case that you anticipated all along that Trump would roar to the front of the GOP contenders, capture the nomination, and then be in a virtual tie with Hillary 5-6 weeks away from election day. Anyone claiming they could predict what would happen in this election cycle is FOS.
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • Besides, I don't think the GOP can boot him off the ticket anyway, he'd have to drop out. That gaping asshole is immune from shame or any kind of self-awareness, he's not dropping out.
      Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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      • Duh.

        http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp
        We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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        • I am predicting the first act as president for Hillary will be a drone strike on Julian Assange...

          Hillary Clinton's Wall St speeches published by Wikileaks
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • Now is the time for Hillary to step up her appeals to Utah/Mormon women.
            We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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            • The Republican Party needs to own Trump in the sense of the needed self-examination to determine how he became the party's standard bearer. I agree with JL that nobody could have seen this happening, but still it did not happen overnight. This is the culmination of decades-long flirtation or even soliciting voters who yearn for the Christian male white culture's former dominance. Romney lost last election substantially because of positions he had to take to get nominated. This hasn't happened overnight and the Republican Party shouldn't just dismiss Trump as an aberration that does not represent it. He does, and that has to change immediately, or the country will lose a healthy tension that has existed between left and right for a long time. The Republican Party will cease to become relevant (like some of its constituent institutions already have).
              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

              --Jonathan Swift

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              • Originally posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
                Now is the time for Hillary to step up her appeals to Utah/Mormon women.
                Maybe this clinton ad will do the trick...

                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                  I am predicting the first act as president for Hillary will be a drone strike on Julian Assange...

                  Hillary Clinton's Wall St speeches published by Wikileaks
                  i like the drone idea, and the released speeches are going to help her: they are measured, thoughtful and mostly right.
                  Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                  • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                    i like the drone idea, and the released speeches are going to help her: they are measured, thoughtful and mostly right.
                    Then Clinton is a big dummy... she should have just released them when Bernie was hounding her about them.
                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                      The Republican Party needs to own Trump in the sense of the needed self-examination to determine how he became the party's standard bearer. I agree with JL that nobody could have seen this happening, but still it did not happen overnight. This is the culmination of decades-long flirtation or even soliciting voters who yearn for the Christian male white culture's former dominance. Romney lost last election substantially because of positions he had to take to get nominated. This hasn't happened overnight and the Republican Party shouldn't just dismiss Trump as an aberration that does not represent it. He does, and that has to change immediately, or the country will lose a healthy tension that has existed between left and right for a long time. The Republican Party will cease to become relevant (like some of its constituent institutions already have).
                      The republican party still has some life in it... The Evangelicals still stand by Trump:

                      Top Evangelicals Stand By Trump Despite His Vulgar Comments About Sleeping With Married Woman

                      Some of the country’s most prominent religious conservatives are still supporting Donald Trump even after 2005 audio published by The Washington Post and NBC News revealed him making vulgar comments about women and extramarital sex.

                      [...]

                      “I’ve listened to the tape, my view is that people of faith are voting on issues like who will protect unborn life, defend religious freedom, create jobs, and oppose the Iran nuclear deal,” Ralph Reed, the chairman of the Faith and Freedom Coalition and a member of Trump’s religious advisory board, said in a statement. “I think a 10-year-old tape of a private conversation with a TV talk show host ranks pretty low on their hierarchy of concerns.”
                      [...]
                      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...068ecb5de95fb?

                      It is interesting that the Evangelicals had a very hard time getting behind RMoney in the last cycle but have no problem with Trump. Was RMoney into killing unborn babies or something?
                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                        Don't know you're aunt, but I question the judgement and thinking of people who truly believe the Clinton's murdered people. Don't know if I'd call them insane, but they need to own their inability to think critically in spite of their hatred for Bill and Hill. We should hold them to their craziness. Blaming some news organization or commentators is a cop out.
                        The Fox News comment was sort of TIC. I also question anyone's judgment who actually believes there is a Clinton body count. But the fact is that there is a reason why Clinton derrangement syndrome exists. Fox News might not be the worst offender, buy it certainly shares some blame by continually whipping up a frenzy of Clinton hate.

                        That's not to say there are real and significant reasons why people shouldn't support Clinton. But the conservative media has equated every.single.ethical lapse of hers into a national level scandal.

                        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        This kind of reaction makes sense to me. We are at the point now where the only possible way one could justify voting for Trump is claiming that Clinton is guilty of murder.
                        Another justification for trump I'm seeing is the way Hillary treated Bill's accusers, and equating it with intimidation and 'rape culture'. I don't remember much of how she reacted back then. But I suppose if you believe the clintons are capable of murder, criminal intimidation tactics are just small potatoes.
                        "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                        "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                        - SeattleUte

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                        • The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

                          Remember her?!

                          I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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                          • is she Mo?
                            I'm like LeBron James.
                            -mpfunk

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                            • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                              Then Clinton is a big dummy... she should have just released them when Bernie was hounding her about them.
                              or maybe she's a genius because now people will read them
                              Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                              • Big news.

                                http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...candidacy.html

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