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  • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    I know it's a throw away vote, but I will be voting Libertarian this time. Obviously it requires a tidal wave of people making the same decision, but enough Democrats and Republicans are disgusted enough where they should be making the same exact decision.

    The only reason they don't, is because they hate the other major candidate more. But is Trump really preferable to Hillary? He's preferable to the Russians and they certainly aren't looking out for our best interests? On the flip side, if you're a Democrat are you really sure Hillary is preferable to Trump? He wants to end or change a lot of the trade deals that unions don't like. In many if not most respects, Trump is a social moderate if not a liberal. He has stated that he doesn't want to get the US into any wars and went after W during the primaries. Granted, he wants to go after ISIS, but Hillary would do the same thing.

    More people have to make the decision that Trump and Hillary are both horrible and it probably doesn't matter who wins between the two. You're then free to vote for someone who in all likelihood would be better.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    • The Sanders/Code Pink loons have taken over a couple of the speeches so far tonight. Chanted over both Admiral John Hutson and Leon Paneta's speeches.

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      • http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1480503...past-the-close

        Interesting read on how identity politics may be hurting the Democrats.

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        • So now we should vote for HRC just because she's a woman?
          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

          Dig your own grave, and save!

          "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

          "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • Joe Biden bringing down the house. Really good speech. Much better than the one Bill Clinton gave last night. So mad at him for not running.

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              • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                Wow, look at all the presidents in that picture. I wonder who was on Bill's left that got cut out.
                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                Dig your own grave, and save!

                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • I love Tim Kaine and Mike Pence. Super boring nerds who wouldn't invite Russia to spy on our political opponents or conduct American foreign policy from a private server set up in their bathrooms.

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                  • Isn't this little old lady killing the momentum?
                    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                    • Bloomberg! Fuckin' ay!
                      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                      --Jonathan Swift

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                      • I don't know what this means, but hell yeah!
                        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                        • Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post


                          I don't know what this means, but hell yeah!
                          It's means America is already great, and awesome as well.
                          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                          • can't believe we're going from this eloquent, inspiring human being to donald trump or hill dog. lol at this country.
                            Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                            • "Don't boo. Vote." That's a good line.
                              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                              • Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                                "Don't boo. Vote." That's a good line.
                                He's been using it going on 6 years.

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