The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[falafel]

Does anyone (besides draft dodgers and hippies) live in Canada?

Moose.

[I.J. Reilly]

Kind of. I view Sanders as a Socialist and complete enemy to US Capitalism. I view Trump more of a raving lunatic who doesn't seem to have a consistent, coherent plan. And the random stuff he says like building the wall probably is never going to fly. I would choose Trump over Sanders. Sanders is much bigger threat to the economy, IMHO. I don't know how much either one would be able to implement, but Obama got Obamacare through and that's been a disaster. Sanders could probably do far worse.

Your definition and my definition of disaster must not be the same.

[Uncle Ted]

Kind of. I view Sanders as a Socialist and complete enemy to US Capitalism. I view Trump more of a raving lunatic who doesn't seem to have a consistent, coherent plan. And the random stuff he says like building the wall probably is never going to fly. I would choose Trump over Sanders. Sanders is much bigger threat to the economy, IMHO. I don't know how much either one would be able to implement, but Obama got Obamacare through and that's been a disaster. Sanders could probably do far worse.

I actually think that Trump with his tariffs and other BS would hurt the economy more than Bernie. Not to mention there is a good chance he might declare war on Mexico or some other country.

[myboynoah]

I actually think that Trump with his tariffs and other BS would hurt the economy more than Bernie. Not to mention there is a good chance he might declare war on Mexico or some other country.

Mexico needs to surrender now and start building that wall. Things will go better that way.

[frank ryan]

Kind of. I view Sanders as a Socialist and complete enemy to US Capitalism. I view Trump more of a raving lunatic who doesn't seem to have a consistent, coherent plan. And the random stuff he says like building the wall probably is never going to fly. I would choose Trump over Sanders. Sanders is much bigger threat to the economy, IMHO. I don't know how much either one would be able to implement, but Obama got Obamacare through and that's been a disaster. Sanders could probably do far worse.

I think George Bush's invasion of Iraq qualifies as a true disaster. I could see Trump replicating that. If Trump wins the GOP nomination, the party will have a hell of a time trying to credibly convince minorities they are welcome in it.

[USUC]

No, I don't think it has. See my response to Venkman.

See, JL, he does believe that crap. You need to be careful with your bingos.

lol

[byu71]

I think George Bush's invasion of Iraq qualifies as a true disaster. I could see Trump replicating that. If Trump wins the GOP nomination, the party will have a hell of a time trying to credibly convince minorities they are welcome in it.

In all honesty Frank, don't you think the democrats have had the minorities locked up for a long, long time. I would say when you get 80-90% of the vote there is quite a bit of party loyalty voting.

A lot of non minorites are having a real problem with Trump and even Cruz. It doesn't seem the minority community has a problem with Hillary's serious issues.

I will apologize in advance. I know someone on thie board is going to accuse me of being racist because of what I posted.

[SCcoug]

How does the saying go? Thank God for Mississippi Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Greece, Portugal, Mexico and China!

[Uncle Ted]

I think George Bush's the Bush/Clinton invasion of Iraq qualifies as a true disaster. I could see Trump replicating that. If Trump wins the GOP nomination, the party will have a hell of a time trying to credibly convince minorities they are welcome in it.

FIFY.

[frank ryan]

In all honesty Frank, don't you think the democrats have had the minorities locked up for a long, long time. I would say when you get 80-90% of the vote there is quite a bit of party loyalty voting.

A lot of non minorites are having a real problem with Trump and even Cruz. It doesn't seem the minority community has a problem with Hillary's serious issues.

I will apologize in advance. I know someone on thie board is going to accuse me of being racist because of what I posted.

A substantial portion of Latino voters favor the GOP. Embracing/tolerated an aggressively xenophobic candidate like Trump change that. Would you expect a minority to have bigger problems with Hillary than Trump?

[frank ryan]

FIFY.

Hillary is a bit of a hawk but she didn't spearhead the whole invasion. She wasn't an architect of it, just part of a rubber-stamping congress.

[Bo Diddley]

I think George Bush's invasion of Iraq qualifies as a true disaster. I could see Trump replicating that. If Trump wins the GOP nomination, the party will have a hell of a time trying to credibly convince minorities they are welcome in it.

How about Afghanistan? Was that a disaster? And let's say we never engaged in this "War on Terror" in the first place. Where would the extremist movement be today? Has the strategy of going after them hurt their operational ability, or has it helped fuel their cause?

I'm not sure I'm ready to call the invasion of Iraq a disaster. Probably the decision to keep all Baathists out of power was. Certainly the decision to cut and run was.

[byu71]

A substantial portion of Latino voters favor the GOP. Embracing/tolerated an aggressively xenophobic candidate like Trump change that. Would you expect a minority to have bigger problems with Hillary than Trump?

Nope, I totally understand why a majority, including Latino's would ignore Hillary's problem more than they would ignore Trumps. I totally understand why young people whould want to support Bernie. I understand why a lot of billionaires come out in support of raising taxes. They have theirs, they don't want a huge revolt. They don't want to have us get to the point of suggesting taxing the heck out of those making $300,000 or more and actually raising taxes also on those in the $35,000 and up and then moving on to a tax on wealth.

Yea, I also vote in my own self interest. I would be for taking away 75% of gates, buffet, soros net worth. Instead of them getting to choose where there money goes, the government can decide where goes just like they do with my money. Honestly I am only for that if they keep harping to have my taxes raised.

[Uncle Ted]

Hillary is a bit of a hawk but she didn't spearhead the whole invasion. She wasn't an architect of it, just part of a rubber-stamping congress.

Yep, and Sean Smith's mother is a damn liar...

[Omaha 680]

How does the saying go? Thank God for Mississippi Italy, S. Korea, Spain, Greece, Portugal, Mexico and China!

I have a hunch North Dakota will have slipped a few spots on the 2016 list.