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I'm going to fast so that Cruz loses. I guess we'll see if I have greater faith than Glenn Beck."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Mitt (Mo) to Marco (Mo-no-mo): Go mo-no-mo, go!
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/mitt-...b0928f5a6c3136τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν
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It's not mysterious. American religion cares more about its hatreds than its Christian morality.Originally posted by Omaha 680 View PostEvangelicals won't vote for Mitt Romney but they love Trump. What a bunch of weirdos.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/20/op...rump.html?_r=0Originally posted by creekster View PostIts nice to see you broaden your target demographic.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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I'm not so sure. How do you explain the fact that Fox and conservative talk radio all hate Trump? If conservative radio and Fox had their way it would be Cruz running away with this thing.Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostI think you can blame conservative talk shows and Fox News for the emergence of Trump. Although I don't listen, the headlines I always hear from the loudest, brashest voices are that the GOP has sold out on immigration. Then you have the distrust of media. The liberal bias of mainstream media is such a cornerstone of conservative political thought that it's not even questioned anymore. It is Fox News's raison d'être, and they give airtime to brash personalities that talk about immigration. All the time.
The radio hosts have railed on the GOP for years, and because the voters have been told the GOP needs to quit acquiescing to the democrats they look to someone who will stop negotiating. So Trump comes along and correctly reads the prevailing opinion of the conservative base. And what does the most hardline conservative voters want their leader to control? What they've been told is the most pressing problem of our generation; immigration. And guess what Trump says in his speech after the SC win; the ridiculous assertion that Mexico will pay for half the border wall.
I'm not sure if I'm saying it the right way, but I'm not as mad/dismayed at Trump as I used to be. My anger is directed more towards the republican party. Trump is simply giving what the brashest conservatives want. Don't blame him. Blame what the GOP has become.
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That's the only thing that gives me pause about Trump and makes me think 'gee he can't be all bad.' I definitely dislike Cruz more than Trump but I hope it ultimately comes down to whom I despise less between Trump and Hilary.Originally posted by imanihonjin View PostI'm not so sure. How do you explain the fact that Fox and conservative talk radio all hate Trump? If conservative radio and Fox had their way it would be Cruz running away with this thing."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Add in CNN, MSNBC and the general media. Who has really nailed him down on his statements and then backing off on them. He is good for ratings. He is a reality show in politics.Originally posted by imanihonjin View PostI'm not so sure. How do you explain the fact that Fox and conservative talk radio all hate Trump? If conservative radio and Fox had their way it would be Cruz running away with this thing.
I think Scarbourough and Mika B. at some point are going to get that tingle in their legs that Mathews got for Obama. I don't watch them anymore so they might have gotten it.
When he gets the nomination though watch the press turn vicious on him. Right now I get the idea they would like him to be the republican candidate. Democrat pundits seem giddy he is going to win.
I have no clue what Trump is going to do if President. I don't know if his idea of making America great again coincide's with mine.
I have problems with illegal immigration but I wish the heck the congress would have worked with Bush and solved the problem. You can't trust the politicians, but does anyone really trust Trump?
I hate saying this, but I think I might vote for Hillary over Trump and Cruz. I would hate religious extremism to take over as much as I would hate socialism to take over, so I can't vote for Cruz. Trump, isn't there something about dancing with the devil you know. That's why I might vote for Hillary. Man this whole thing stinks.
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Sources close to Trump say that as the front-runner, he stands to clean up in states with winner-take-all rules. That will propel him to the nomination, they believe. But not a single state is winner-take-all until Florida (99 delegates) and Ohio (66 delegates) vote on March 15. With Jeb Bush’s dropping out, Marco Rubio probably has an advantage over Trump in his home state, as does John Kasich in Ohio. Kasich is likely to stay in the race in hopes he can use his delegates to become a power broker at the GOP convention in Cleveland in July. After Florida and Ohio, there are only seven other states that are winner-take-all, making it all the harder for an early nominee to emerge before the convention.
The race goes on from Florida and Ohio. New York will allocate 95 delegates by congressional district on April 19, at which point 68 percent of the delegates will have been awarded. That’s the traditional point at which the GOP nomination race has concluded in the past, but this year it is very likely to go on. The primaries end on June 7, when California will use a congressional-district allocation method to divvy up 172 delegates.http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...e-myth-realityEven diehard believers in the Power of Trump have to use strained reasoning to give Trump a majority of delegates at the end of the primaries.
The more I look at polls and the calendar, I think a contested convention is the most likely outcome. I would be fine with that because I don't see any way Trump emerges from a contested convention as the nominee. If he did, then the GOP really would be dead.
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Originally posted by byu71 View PostAdd in CNN, MSNBC and the general media. Who has really nailed him down on his statements and then backing off on them. He is good for ratings. He is a reality show in politics.
I think Scarbourough and Mika B. at some point are going to get that tingle in their legs that Mathews got for Obama. I don't watch them anymore so they might have gotten it.
When he gets the nomination though watch the press turn vicious on him. Right now I get the idea they would like him to be the republican candidate. Democrat pundits seem giddy he is going to win.
I have no clue what Trump is going to do if President. I don't know if his idea of making America great again coincide's with mine.
I have problems with illegal immigration but I wish the heck the congress would have worked with Bush and solved the problem. You can't trust the politicians, but does anyone really trust Trump?
I hate saying this, but I think I might vote for Hillary over Trump and Cruz. I would hate religious extremism to take over as much as I would hate socialism to take over, so I can't vote for Cruz. Trump, isn't there something about dancing with the devil you know. That's why I might vote for Hillary. Man this whole thing stinks.
This truly is a remarkable election cycle."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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I keep saying this, but it is really true; I don't partake of Fox News or talk radio. But from my Twitter feed and other online sources, I've heard that both Hannity and Limbaugh have pushed for Trump. I'm not sure where they are now. I don't know about Fox News, but doesn't Ann Coulter comment on there? And I know she's all in for Trump.Originally posted by imanihonjin View PostI'm not so sure. How do you explain the fact that Fox and conservative talk radio all hate Trump? If conservative radio and Fox had their way it would be Cruz running away with this thing.
But yeah, I agree that it does seem that most of the conservative intelligentsia is against Trump now. In my opinion, that doesn't invalidate my argument. Those same organizations have been relentlessly attacking the 'establishment', whether it be squishy republicans or mainstream media. Their fans have heard this message now for over a generation, and they want what those hosts have been arguing for. In Trump's favor, who currently is more anti-establishment than him? He is the personification of what conservative talk show hosts have implicitly wanted as long as they've been around, just not in the same anti-establishment way they had hoped for. It doesn't matter that those organizations have now realized just how close Trump is to winning the nomination, and that they are trying to stem the tide that they themselves have created. He is the Frankenstein of their own making.Last edited by Northwestcoug; 02-22-2016, 11:20 AM."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Welcome to the dark side, '71.Originally posted by byu71 View PostAdd in CNN, MSNBC and the general media. Who has really nailed him down on his statements and then backing off on them. He is good for ratings. He is a reality show in politics.
I think Scarbourough and Mika B. at some point are going to get that tingle in their legs that Mathews got for Obama. I don't watch them anymore so they might have gotten it.
When he gets the nomination though watch the press turn vicious on him. Right now I get the idea they would like him to be the republican candidate. Democrat pundits seem giddy he is going to win.
I have no clue what Trump is going to do if President. I don't know if his idea of making America great again coincide's with mine.
I have problems with illegal immigration but I wish the heck the congress would have worked with Bush and solved the problem. You can't trust the politicians, but does anyone really trust Trump?
I hate saying this, but I think I might vote for Hillary over Trump and Cruz. I would hate religious extremism to take over as much as I would hate socialism to take over, so I can't vote for Cruz. Trump, isn't there something about dancing with the devil you know. That's why I might vote for Hillary. Man this whole thing stinks."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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