The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[SCcoug]

I can't get past her mishandling classified info. That's basic stuff that is drilled into your head. Anyone else would be facing serious jail time.

[Moliere]

Not necessarily. But married couples generally tend to have roughly similar political inclinations, background, philosophy, etc. Bill was a fairly decent, relatively centrist president. Just curious why folks think she would not only be worse, but crazier-than-Trump worse. You have an opinion on that?

I have an opinion on everything, you know that.

I'd vote for Clinton before trump as trump would be worse, but I also wouldn't vote for Clinton. We have enough data to show she's an ineffective politician. She may share bill's philosophy and inclinations, but she doesn't have his charisma or political eptitude.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I have an opinion on everything, you know that.

I'd vote for Clinton before trump as trump would be worse, but I also wouldn't vote for Clinton. We have enough data to show she's an ineffective politician. She may share bill's philosophy and inclinations, but she doesn't have his charisma or political eptitude.

Seems reasonable. Thanks.

[old_gregg]

bernie leading in iowa

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[Topper]

bernie leading in iowa

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It would be great fun to see whacko Bernie make the race interesting. I'm rooting for Bernie just to see Hillary sweat.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Is there one post here that says she would be "crazier" than Trump? At this point you must be intentionally avoiding the discussion.

Ha. Not going to fall into one of your dumb semantics debates. You know what I mean.

I can't speak for your wife, but my wife is completely independent from me politically. For most of our marriage we haven't even been in the same party. Moreover, no one, as far as I recall, said she would be bad because Bill was bad, instead I and others have said she is a poor choice for president based on her own merits. She has earned our opprobrium all by herself.

I never claimed such. My question is self-explanatory.

[creekster]

Ha. Not going to fall into one of your dumb semantics debates. You know what I mean.





I never claimed such. My question is self-explanatory.

My dumb semantic debates? That isn't semantic. that goes to the heart of it. Who is making a comparison on that basis? Only you.

ANd I answered your self explanatory question, btw. Not sure if it was actually self-explanatory, but it certainly wan't relevant.

[YOhio]

I can't get past her mishandling classified info. That's basic stuff that is drilled into your head. Anyone else would be facing serious jail time.

JL is cool with that. He'd rather be governed by a felon than a loudmouth with an ego.

[Topper]

JL is cool with that. He'd rather be governed by a felon than a loudmouth with an ego.

It is shocking that many people will overlook her panoply of character flaws, not the least of which are her patent dishonesty and megliomania. Yet, the same people were going all ballistic on Nixon. As creekster points out, we know how horribly flawed she is and she lacks any of the good traits her husband possesses. In Trump, because he isn't a career politician he would be controllable and would have to rely upon those with more sensible leanings than his own. There only silver lining will be that she is so polarizing and ineffective, much of her agenda won't get passed. Unfortunately, she will likely replace the Supreme Court justices with a bunch of whacko bozos. Trump would have to kowtow to GOP insiders are likely to appoint better justices.

[Nakoma]

Not necessarily. But married couples generally tend to have roughly similar political inclinations, background, philosophy, etc. Bill was a fairly decent, relatively centrist president. Just curious why folks think she would not only be worse, but crazier-than-Trump worse. You have an opinion on that?

So, you're saying Hillary will be willing to commit perjury and be disbarred to protect herself, too? Bill committed perjury about his Oval Office sex to protect himself from paying money damages when he was sued by a state worker for sexual harassment after exposing himself to the state worker and asking her to SAD. Based upon Bill and Hillary sharing the same philosophy and inclinations, I should reasonably conclude Hillary has lied about Benghazi and her unsecured transmission of top secret information and would be willing to perjure herself to protect herself just like Bill. You know, birds of a feather flock together, right?

[Jeff Lebowski]

My dumb semantic debates? That isn't semantic. that goes to the heart of it. Who is making a comparison on that basis? Only you.

Yes, absolutely. You are nitpicking over one word.

No thanks.

(now watch creekster attempt to argue over the definition of "semantics debate")

[creekster]

Yes, absolutely. You are nitpicking over one word.

No thanks.

(now watch creekster attempt to argue over the definition of "semantics debate")

no, I think your arguments are completely self-explanatory at this point.

[Jeff Lebowski]

JL is cool with that. He'd rather be governed by a felon than a loudmouth with an ego.

It depends on what loudmouth we are talking about!

[Topper]

no, I think your arguments are completely self-explanatory at this point.

If he doesn't like the substance, it's dumb semantics.

[creekster]

JL is cool with that. He'd rather be governed by a felon than a loudmouth with an ego.

It's not just that she committed a felony, but a felony that goes to the heart of the trust that was placed in her when she was working at the highest level of the executive branch and, yet, some think it would be just great to have her there again because, you know, bill was pretty cool and, after all, wives are usually pretty much in line with their hubbies on political issues, right?