The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

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  • imanihonjin
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 3772

    #181
    Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    If he loves his country he should support anyone but Mitt. America doesn't like voting for perennial political losers.
    Signed,

    Ronald Reagan.

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    • Northwestcoug
      Cocked and Loaded
      • May 2011
      • 17876

      #182
      Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
      Signed,

      Ronald Reagan.
      Mmm hmmm...

      By my count, Romney had one failed US Senate and 2 failed presidential runs. He was governor for one term.

      Other than the '76 presidential run, am I missing other significant Reagan defeats?
      "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
      "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
      - SeattleUte

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      • San Juan Sun
        Kicked to the curb
        • Dec 2009
        • 9214

        #183
        Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
        Signed,

        Ronald Reagan.
        Cosigned,

        William Jennings Brian
        Adlai Stevenson
        Al Smith
        Ralph Nader
        Last edited by San Juan Sun; 09-15-2014, 01:28 PM.
        "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

        - Ty Cobb

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        • falafel
          loves to talk on things
          • Mar 2009
          • 37825

          #184
          Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
          If he loves his country he should support anyone but Mitt. America doesn't like voting for perennial political losers.
          Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
          Signed,

          Ronald Reagan.
          Ronald Reagan said that?
          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

          Dig your own grave, and save!

          "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

          "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • TripletDaddy
            sweet triple
            • Nov 2008
            • 58186

            #185
            Originally posted by falafel View Post
            Ronald Reagan said that?
            It looks like he wrote it but we don't know whether he actually said it.
            Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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            • falafel
              loves to talk on things
              • Mar 2009
              • 37825

              #186
              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
              It looks like he wrote it but we don't know whether he actually said it.
              Good point. Looks like I'll have to go to the original source. Anyone have a link?
              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

              Dig your own grave, and save!

              "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

              "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • TripletDaddy
                sweet triple
                • Nov 2008
                • 58186

                #187
                Originally posted by falafel View Post
                Good point. Looks like I'll have to go to the original source. Anyone have a link?
                I would be interested to know whether Reagan ended his written communications with the word "signed." I suppose it is possible but seems unlikely.
                Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                • imanihonjin
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 3772

                  #188
                  Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                  Mmm hmmm...

                  By my count, Romney had one failed US Senate and 2 failed presidential runs. He was governor for one term.

                  Other than the '76 presidential run, am I missing other significant Reagan defeats?
                  Reagan also ran in '68 for the Republican nomination.

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                  • Northwestcoug
                    Cocked and Loaded
                    • May 2011
                    • 17876

                    #189
                    Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
                    Reagan also ran in '68 for the Republican nomination.
                    Really? I admit I don't know much about his early political career, but it seemed like he was just testing the presidential waters in '68. He had just become governor of CA.



                    Whatever, though. See above for the success rates of other perennial political nominees.
                    "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                    "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                    - SeattleUte

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                    • imanihonjin
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 3772

                      #190
                      Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
                      Cosigned,

                      William Jennings Brian
                      Adlai Stevenson
                      Al Smith
                      Ralph Nader
                      Ralph Nader is a great comparison. Almost as good as a comparison to someone who ran for president in 1896, 1900, and 1908. I am really surprised you didn't mention Ross Perot.

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                      • San Juan Sun
                        Kicked to the curb
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9214

                        #191
                        Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
                        Ralph Nader is a great comparison. Almost as good as a comparison to someone who ran for president in 1896, 1900, and 1908. I am really surprised you didn't mention Ross Perot.
                        Lol. Forgot about Perot. If I add him, I've got 5 failed candidates to your 1 successful. Thanks angry Japanese guy!
                        "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

                        - Ty Cobb

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                        • imanihonjin
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 3772

                          #192
                          Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
                          Lol. Forgot about Perot. If I add him, I've got 5 failed candidates to your 1 successful. Thanks angry Japanese guy!
                          No problem...it isn't hard to help you make really terrible arguments.

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                          • Omaha 680
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 11159

                            #193
                            A much better example of a political loser turned winner than Reagan is Nixon (although he ultimately was a loser). Lost the presidential election in '60 and the California Governor election in '62 then returned to win two presidential elections.

                            I think I will pay a lot less attention this cycle. The die is cast so why get worked up?

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                            • Paperback Writer
                              Signature won a Pulitzer
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5211

                              #194
                              Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                              A much better example of a political loser turned winner than Reagan is Nixon (although he ultimately was a loser). Lost the presidential election in '62 and the California Governor election in '64 then returned to win two presidential elections.

                              I think I will pay a lot less attention this cycle. The die is cast so why get worked up?
                              But Nixon was a winner (2 terms in the house and one as a Senator, IIRC) before he was a loser, before he was back a winner, and then a loser. One can argue that Nixon was ultimately a winner but the stigma of Watergate cannot be overcome by many. Also, your a couple of years ahead-Nixon lost in 1960 and 1962. Otherwise, Nixon is a good comparision. Nixon's political career was considered dead after 1962 even by Nixon himselft for a brief time.
                              “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
                              "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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                              • imanihonjin
                                Junior Member
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 3772

                                #195
                                Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                                A much better example of a political loser turned winner than Reagan is Nixon (although he ultimately was a loser). Lost the presidential election in '60 and the California Governor election in '62 then returned to win two presidential elections.

                                I think I will pay a lot less attention this cycle. The die is cast so why get worked up?
                                Also, if the later part of the 1800's are in play (see, William Jennings Brian), Abraham Lincoln is another example. Lost a bid for the state legislature, a bid to become the speaker of the state legislature after finally winning a bit to be a state legislator, a failed bid to become an elector, lost a bid to be a Congressman before winning and then ultimately failing to be reelected, and then lost twice while running for a Senate seat. All this before being elected President and becoming what may be the greatest U.S. president of all time.
                                Last edited by imanihonjin; 09-16-2014, 08:26 AM.

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