The military isn't a socialist program. That's just silly.
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I agree with that. But I think some of the left like to fight the Right's cries of socialism with the argument that any government spending (courts, roads, police, fire, etc) is socialism. And it's not. There is legit gov't spending that isn't socialistic/redistributive in nature.Originally posted by YOhio View PostThe military itself isn't, but the relationship between the government and a handful of contractors bears little resemblance to the competitive sort of capitalism."Remember to double tap"
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Originally posted by byu71 View PostOk, give me the name of the country that has all of those.
Is this such a tough question to answer. Robin said how about the "ones", which infers there is more than one country that has all those things better than the US.
I don't need several, just one so I can see what it is about them that has them better off in these area's.
With Obama, Pelosi and Reid in charge, like many of the Hollywood stars who were upset when the repubs. were in, I might consider moving. I would like to know the Country that is available to move to with all those things better than the US.
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Right, because there is no relationship between cultural norms and what the government does.Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostI hate those statistics. Everything on your list except for cleaner air has nothing to do with government and everything to do with prevailing cultural norms in many parts of this country (both urban and rural).
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All of those programs are socialistic/redistributive in nature. The primary difference is that you see them as 'legit.'Originally posted by venkman View PostI agree with that. But I think some of the left like to fight the Right's cries of socialism with the argument that any government spending (courts, roads, police, fire, etc) is socialism. And it's not. There is legit gov't spending that isn't socialistic/redistributive in nature.
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Of course they are. I would be open to an explanation as to why those services are not redistributive in nature.Originally posted by RobinFinderson View PostAll of those programs are socialistic/redistributive in nature. The primary difference is that you see them as 'legit.'
Is there some guide to "legit" government spending floating around out there? It would be nice to read it.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Those are not redistributive in nature as far as I am concerned. I need those services. It could be argued I need those services more than someone who earns less income. I don't consider the fire department, the courts, the police or the hi-ways a redistribution of my income. Perhaps someone else would.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostOf course they are. I would be open to an explanation as to why those services are not redistributive in nature.
Is there some guide to "legit" government spending floating around out there? It would be nice to read it.
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of course not.Originally posted by byu71 View PostThose are not redistributive in nature as far as I am concerned. I need those services. It could be argued I need those services more than someone who earns less income. I don't consider the fire department, the courts, the police or the hi-ways a redistribution of my income. Perhaps someone else would.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.Originally posted by RobinFinderson View PostFreedom seems to mean something very different to liberals and Republicans."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla
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He's getting at the fact that as far as you're concerned, they aren't redistributive because, as you said, YOU NEED THEM.Originally posted by byu71 View PostSince I don't know what you are getting at, I can't respond."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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