What do republicans want?

[RobinFinderson]

Ok, give me the name of the country that has all of those.

For Infant Mortality and longevity:
Japan, Finland, Sweden, UK, France, Denmark, Canada, Italy and Spain.

My inclusion of suicide rates skews the numbers a bit. Per Wikipedia:

Spain, Italy and the UK remain (could have something to do with all of the darkness up in the northern countries).

All countries listed so far are better than the U.S. when it comes to murder. Finding statistics about other crimes is difficult.

Italy is slightly behind the U.S. in literacy. All other countries mentioned are better off.

Pollution is harder to measure and compare.

Also I wasn't able to find comparables for drug/alcohol addiction.

[KillerDog]

For Infant Mortality and longevity:
Japan, Finland, Sweden, UK, France, Denmark, Canada, Italy and Spain.

My inclusion of suicide rates skews the numbers a bit. Per Wikipedia:

Spain, Italy and the UK remain (could have something to do with all of the darkness up in the northern countries).

All countries listed so far are better than the U.S. when it comes to murder. Finding statistics about other crimes is difficult.

Italy is slightly behind the U.S. in literacy. All other countries mentioned are better off.

Pollution is harder to measure and compare.

Also I wasn't able to find comparables for drug/alcohol addiction.

Interesting stuff to think about. What is the average home size, how many cars per person, what is the average amount of calories consumed per capita?

[byu71]

For Infant Mortality and longevity:
Japan, Finland, Sweden, UK, France, Denmark, Canada, Italy and Spain.

My inclusion of suicide rates skews the numbers a bit. Per Wikipedia:

Spain, Italy and the UK remain (could have something to do with all of the darkness up in the northern countries).

All countries listed so far are better than the U.S. when it comes to murder. Finding statistics about other crimes is difficult.

Italy is slightly behind the U.S. in literacy. All other countries mentioned are better off.

Pollution is harder to measure and compare.

Also I wasn't able to find comparables for drug/alcohol addiction.

So you are saying you just made a big generalization to prove a point hoping I would just accept what you said.

The "ones" who are better off than the US in all those area's is just a good talking point not based in fact.

Canada is one country I might consider moving to, if I could be guaranteed I could come back to the US for medical care. Wait, maybe not. If Obama and Pelosi have their way it would be about the same.

The others you listed are a definite no. Well maybe Japan.

[wuapinmon]

So you are saying you just made a big generalization to prove a point hoping I would just accept what you said.

The "ones" who are better off than the US in all those area's is just a good talking point not based in fact.

Canada is one country I might consider moving to, if I could be guaranteed I could come back to the US for medical care. Wait, maybe not. If Obama and Pelosi have their way it would be about the same.

The others you listed are a definite no. Well maybe Japan.

Have you visited the other countries? Are you well-versed in their policies and laws?

[byu71]

Have you visited the other countries? Are you well-versed in their policies and laws?

I have been to Mexico, Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Austria, Switzerland. Some of them more than once. My son served his mission in Japan. I am well versed enough in their polices and laws to know I would rather live in the USA.

[Indy Coug]

My family and I have lived overseas for over 20 years and in multiple countries. We have visited many others. There isn't one nation that I've lived in or visited that I would ever seriously consider to be better than the US as a whole.

[RobinFinderson]

My family and I have lived overseas for over 20 years and in multiple countries. We have visited many others. There isn't one nation that I've lived in or visited that I would ever seriously consider to be better than the US as a whole.

I would bet your feelings would be different if you were born into a poor American family. The kids growing up in South Central could sure use better schools, better public transportation, healthy food and access to preventative medical care.

[Indy Coug]

I would bet your feelings would be different if you were born into a poor American family. The kids growing up in South Central could sure use better schools, better public transportation, healthy food and access to preventative medical care.

You can always find some small subset that is the exception to the rule. I don't know where you may have lived/visited outside the US, but I believe you may have an overly romanticized vision of what impoverished neighborhoods in Europe and elsewhere are like.

[byu71]

I would bet your feelings would be different if you were born into a poor American family. The kids growing up in South Central could sure use better schools, better public transportation, healthy food and access to preventative medical care.

Probably different if he had been born into ill gotten wealth like the Kennedy's. He probably would be very pro socialism to ease his pain of guilt and plus he already would be part of the powerful elite.

[RobinFinderson]

Probably different if he had been born into ill gotten wealth like the Kennedy's. He probably would be very pro socialism to ease his pain of guilt and plus he already would be part of the powerful elite.

Instead I am 'pro socialism' because I was born to a middle-class family in a blue-collar town in a poor state and went on to live in a poverty-ridden barrio where I can see how these programs would help the malnourished and illiterate kids that populate my neighborhood. Thank goodness I wasn't born into wealth like the Kennedy's or else my opinion on these issues wouldn't matter!

[byu71]

Instead I am 'pro socialism' because I was born to a middle-class family in a blue-collar town in a poor state and went on to live in a poverty-ridden barrio where I can see how these programs would help the malnourished and illiterate kids that populate my neighborhood. Thank goodness I wasn't born into wealth like the Kennedy's or else my opinion on these issues wouldn't matter!

Whoever said they didn't matter. They matter ( and so do the Kennedy's), a great deal because they may affect how I live and how I pay taxes. I think also you are entitled to your opinion and if the majority in this country are persuaded to have socialism, that is how it should be. Majority rules.

I am just not impressed by some of the bogus arguments you make to support your opinions.

[RobinFinderson]

I am just not impressed by some of the bogus arguments you make to support your opinions.

What has been a bogus argument? The suicide rate thing?

[venkman]

Those are not redistributive in nature as far as I am concerned. I need those services. It could be argued I need those services more than someone who earns less income. I don't consider the fire department, the courts, the police or the hi-ways a redistribution of my income. Perhaps someone else would.

That's my understanding as well. Police, fire, military, roads, etc. are open to all and of benefit to all. It's not taking from one person or group and giving to another person or group.

[byu71]

What has been a bogus argument? The suicide rate thing?

You said "ones", that is plural. You then went on to cherry pick a whole list of things that are better in the "ones" (countries) than the USA. It was a broad sweeping generalization and you know it. There might be many countries better as far as stats go in some of those area's. Even some better in most of those stats.

However, that doesn't prove their form of government is better or for sure that socialism is better.

Which of those countries have more people flocking to get in? Which of those countries are more innovative and entrpreneurial. Which country provides most of the worlds discoveries in technology or medical cures.

America, in my opinion is the greatest country on earth. Argue it could become better, but don't argue some other country is better overall. Why do libs. have to belittle America in order to argue it can become better.

[RobinFinderson]

Why do libs. have to belittle America in order to argue it can become better.

Who is doing that?