Stand Your Ground

[dabrockster]

The evolution of the gun I believe cannot begin with the gun itself. After looking up the history of firearms it is clear that the gun was an evolution of the Chinese's use of black powder which its original purpose was for fireworks.. The Chinese then began to modify this into a hand to hand combat weapon called a Fire-Lance, and the rest was history..


Your response that I think has caused a stir is the use of "Its purpose is to kill".. I have a hard time swallowing that, since many variables must be met in order for the purpose of the gun to meet that criteria and none of that has to do with the actual gun itself...

[venkman]

Freedom can be scary and even dangerous at times.

[FN Phat]

The main reason I got a CHL was not because I wanted to carry a handgun everywhere I go (I rarely carry a handgun) but so I didn't get thrown in jail while when I had a handgun in my car (e.g. when I went to the range or on a trip). In other words, it let's the cops know that I am one of the "good guys" even though my skin coloring is a little darker than y'alls.

Bingo. I have had my CCL for over 1-1/2 years and have yet to carry on my person. I have it so that when I go to the range, hunting, fishing, and trips with the family, etc. I have the peace of mind that I am not breaking a law with the weapon(s) in my vehicle and/or boat. Especially if my family is with me.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Tim, as a man of principle I am guessing that you don't have any knives in your home or kitchen. You might use that baby to chop carrots of spread butter on your bread, but we all know why knives were invented.

[DU Ute]

Freedom can be scary and even dangerous at times.

I agree. I really don't have that big of an issue with people owning guns, but people who feel a need to constantly be armed give me the creeps. Don't give me some bullshit story about how I should feel safer with more people walking around packing heat. It's also ironic to hear people who are normally decrying government incompetence telling me I shouldn't worry because people are passing a government background check.

[Jarid in Cedar]

I might be tempted to use my guns to shoot people if humans were better tasting than they are.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I might be tempted to use my guns to shoot people if humans were better tasting than they are.

Ummm.... How is that you know that humans don't taste good?

[ERCougar]

I might be tempted to use my guns to shoot people if humans were better tasting than they are.

This is a little disturbing on several levels, doctor.

[Tim]

Freedom can be scary and even dangerous at times.

Especially in the hands of small minds like yours...

[Tim]

Tim, as a man of principle I am guessing that you don't have any knives in your home or kitchen. You might use that baby to chop carrots of spread butter on your bread, but we all know why knives were invented.

That's not a good comparison. I don't walk around town with a knife strapped to my hip. I do keep small, mostly-dull knives in the privacy of my home, though. Just like it's fine to have a gun in the privacy of your home, but the minute you walk around in public it becomes everyone else's business.

[creekster]

That's not a good comparison. I don't walk around town with a knife strapped to my hip. I do keep small, mostly-dull knives in the privacy of my home, though. Just like it's fine to have a gun in the privacy of your home, but the minute you walk around in public it becomes everyone else's business.

SO no pocket knives?

Btw, dull knives are more dangerous than sharp ones. Seriously.

[Eddie]

Already changing your position, it seems. You've gone from "killing people" to mere "killing". Progress. I'm looking forward to your analysis as to the legality of possessing sharp stones.

Yep. This. Guns may have been invented for killing. But killing what?

I also agree that this is a dumb argument to make. What other items are now being used for something other than the intent behind their original purpose of invention. And are we so hard on those items?

Where I come from they refer to arguments like Tim's as throwing the baby out with the bath water.

[creekster]

I might be tempted to use my guns to shoot people if humans were better tasting than they are.

How do you know we aren't?


oops, Lebowski giot here first.

[FN Phat]

That's not a good comparison. I don't walk around town with a knife strapped to my hip. I do keep small, mostly-dull knives in the privacy of my home, though. Just like it's fine to have a gun in the privacy of your home, but the minute you walk around in public it becomes everyone else's business.

I walk around with a very sharp, tactical knife in the pocket of my pants that I use every day. It is called a pocket knife.

[creekster]

Yep. This. Guns may have been invented for killing. But killing what?

I also agree that this is a dumb argument to make. What other items are now being used for something other than the intent behind their original purpose of invention. And are we so hard on those items?

Where I come from they refer to arguments like Tim's as throwing the baby out with the bath water.

DO we know they were for killing people? Thay are awfully handy for hunting and given the importance of finding food for most of history I ahve to believe that was a powerful inducement for their development.

I havent ready this thread, so if this has already been addressed, my apology.