Obamacare cost...

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Goatnapper'96
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 10931

    #541
    Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
    If Obamacare is so damn terrific, why does Dear Leader continue to delay bits and pieces of it? Surely it isn't about political expediency.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/us...agewanted=all&
    I would think that politically it would be more popular to not delay this part of the law. What it highlights is governmental incompetence.
    Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
    -General George S. Patton

    I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
    -DOCTOR Wuap

    Comment

    • snowcat
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 1348

      #542
      Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
      If Obamacare is so damn terrific, why does Dear Leader continue to delay bits and pieces of it? Surely it isn't about political expediency.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/us...agewanted=all&
      One more midterm election delay.
      One of the grandest benefits of the enlightenment was the realization that our moral sense must be based on the welfare of living individuals, not on their immortal souls. Honest and passionate folks can strongly disagree regarding spiritual matters, so it's imperative that we not allow such considerations to infringe on the real happiness of real people.

      Woot

      I believe religion has much inherent good and has born many good fruits.
      SU

      Comment

      • snowcat
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 1348

        #543
        Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
        I would think that politically it would be more popular to not delay this part of the law. What it highlights is governmental incompetence.
        The delay avoids insurance premium increases to cover the costs of the change until after the midterms.
        One of the grandest benefits of the enlightenment was the realization that our moral sense must be based on the welfare of living individuals, not on their immortal souls. Honest and passionate folks can strongly disagree regarding spiritual matters, so it's imperative that we not allow such considerations to infringe on the real happiness of real people.

        Woot

        I believe religion has much inherent good and has born many good fruits.
        SU

        Comment

        • imanihonjin
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 3772

          #544
          Originally posted by snowcat View Post
          The delay avoids insurance premium increases to cover the costs of the change until after the midterms.
          This.

          Comment

          • Goatnapper'96
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 10931

            #545
            Originally posted by snowcat View Post
            The delay avoids insurance premium increases to cover the costs of the change until after the midterms.
            Good point.
            Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
            -General George S. Patton

            I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
            -DOCTOR Wuap

            Comment

            • byu71
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 22070

              #546
              Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
              As an Obama hater, this is really a false attack. All that happened with Congress and their staffers was to allow the federal government to continue to pay up to 75% of the staffers and Congressmen/women/peoples premium under the insurance exchanges. Without such a waiver, these individuals would have gone from having 75% of the premium covered to nothing.
              I am now hearing Obama's staff is getting some kind of waiver. When I get time I will really look into this and see if your and Cali's "it's no big deal" claim holds water. I hope you guys are right because I rely so heavily on you both to bring me the truth.

              Comment

              • Goatnapper'96
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 10931

                #547
                Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                I am now hearing Obama's staff is getting some kind of waiver. When I get time I will really look into this and see if your and Cali's "it's no big deal" claim holds water. I hope you guys are right because I rely so heavily on you both to bring me the truth.
                They have been saved for these later days!
                Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                -General George S. Patton

                I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                -DOCTOR Wuap

                Comment

                • Goatnapper'96
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10931

                  #548
                  Of all the stupid things this law does, of which there are legion, this is the dumbest IMO. I believe that low premium/high deductable plans are one of the principal reasons that actual health care spending has had its cost curve bent downwards the last few years. However, this law made many of them obsolete.

                  Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                  -General George S. Patton

                  I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                  -DOCTOR Wuap

                  Comment

                  • il Padrino Ute
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 19161

                    #549
                    Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                    Of all the stupid things this law does, of which there are legion, this is the dumbest IMO. I believe that low premium/high deductable plans are one of the principal reasons that actual health care spending has had its cost curve bent downwards the last few years. However, this law made many of them obsolete.

                    http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...751_story.html
                    It certainly seems to prove that the "If you like your plan you can keep it" line was a lie.

                    Can we say single-payer?
                    "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                    "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

                    Comment

                    • imanihonjin
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 3772

                      #550
                      Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                      I am now hearing Obama's staff is getting some kind of waiver. When I get time I will really look into this and see if your and Cali's "it's no big deal" claim holds water. I hope you guys are right because I rely so heavily on you both to bring me the truth.
                      Good to hear. By the way, have I ever told you that I can get you in on a ground level of a new investment vehicle that is guaranteed to yield a return of at least 40%. Let me know if you are interested.

                      Comment

                      • byu71
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 22070

                        #551
                        Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
                        Good to hear. By the way, have I ever told you that I can get you in on a ground level of a new investment vehicle that is guaranteed to yield a return of at least 40%. Let me know if you are interested.
                        LOL, 40%, LOL. Apparently you don't know who I am. I stopped accepting 40% returns when I was 13.

                        Comment

                        • Goatnapper'96
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 10931

                          #552
                          Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                          LOL, 40%, LOL. Apparently you don't know who I am. I stopped accepting 40% returns when I was 13.
                          True, but all that shit from the Roaring Twenties that you found sexy went t/u.
                          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                          -General George S. Patton

                          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                          -DOCTOR Wuap

                          Comment

                          • byu71
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 22070

                            #553
                            Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                            True, but all that shit from the Roaring Twenties that you found sexy went t/u.
                            I am more current than you give me credit for. I know what t/u means. Do you know what t/t means?

                            Comment

                            • All-American
                              Right, as Usual
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 15696

                              #554
                              Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                              I am more current than you give me credit for. I know what t/u means. Do you know what t/t means?
                              I know what he thinks t/t means.
                              τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

                              Comment

                              • Maximus
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 6045

                                #555
                                Even NBC news admits it

                                Find the latest reporting on U.S. and world investigations. View articles, photos and videos covering criminal justice and exposing corruption, scandal and more on NBCNews.com.

                                Comment

                                Working...