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  • ERCougar
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 10978

    #31
    Originally posted by MindfulCoug View Post
    Mild stuff? does it mean you practice Farsi in ER?

    I am thinking if i could follow your logic and come to this conclusion that Mr.Ahmadinejad did actually have right to enjoy free speech when citing his famous line?
    I have absolutely no idea what you're saying here.
    At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
    -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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    • MindfulCoug
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 395

      #32
      Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
      I have absolutely no idea what you're saying here.
      You were surprised by the mildness of the stuff ,the guy has written ,so i thought you might have actually known Farsi and have actually read the blog to achieve this perspective.

      Watching all free speech lovers marching here for support ,i supposed, did Iranian president actually have the right of practicing free speech in his rhetoric as saying "Israel must be wiped off the map"??

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      • wuapinmon
        Soul Plumber
        • Dec 2008
        • 30711

        #33
        Originally posted by MindfulCoug View Post
        You were surprised by the mildness of the stuff ,the guy has written ,so i thought you might have actually known Farsi and have actually read the blog to achieve this perspective.

        Watching all free speech lovers marching here for support ,i supposed, did Iranian president actually have the right of practicing free speech in his rhetoric as saying "Israel must be wiped off the map"??
        Of course he has the right...and for using that right, Iran now has the world's scorn because you 'elected' a Messianic demagogue to be the spokesperson for your particular brand of brinkmanship. There are consequences for saying whatever you want, especially threatening the annihilation of a nation and its people. However, I think your president should have the right to say what he wants, provided he considers the consequences of using the right.

        I wonder, how is it that Iran has to import gasoline to supply its citizens? Could the billions spent trying to rid the world of Israel perhaps have been invested in the Iranian economy? You spend 8.5% of your federal budget importing and subsidizing gasoline for your citizens, in a country with 10% of the world's proven oil reserves. Hmmm, maybe the sky-high unemployment rate would be less if the leaders used all the oil wealth they extract from Europe to actually differentiate their economy? Right now you're tenant economy suffers from Dutch disease. When the oil runs out, the population will be too big for the carrying capacity of the land and there will be yet another Iranian Diaspora. But, by all means, lets sink billions into a nuclear energy program that can be weaponized.

        And let's execute bloggers, and little girls for getting raped for their 'crimes against chastity;' let's make our non-Muslim citizens wear colored cloths on their clothing so that we can easily identify them; let's station gunboats in the Straits of Hormuz so that we can "protect" our interests by attacking Kuwaiti oil tankers.

        If you're happy with your government, then you deserve the government you have.



        Maybe you need another revolution...
        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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        • ERCougar
          Junior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 10978

          #34
          Originally posted by MindfulCoug View Post
          You were surprised by the mildness of the stuff ,the guy has written ,so i thought you might have actually known Farsi and have actually read the blog to achieve this perspective.

          Watching all free speech lovers marching here for support ,i supposed, did Iranian president actually have the right of practicing free speech in his rhetoric as saying "Israel must be wiped off the map"??
          No, I don't read Farsi. I'm trusting the translation. Maybe I'm wrong.

          And there's a difference between publicly calling for the annihilation of another people and saying that your country isn't truly "free". Surely you can see that?

          I love hearing an alternative viewpoint to the Western one, but when you strain to make arguments like that one, you just make your whole perspective look silly.
          At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
          -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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          • TripletDaddy
            sweet triple
            • Nov 2008
            • 58186

            #35
            Originally posted by MindfulCoug View Post
            Not so sure about you ,but Iranians were given the opportunity of choosing the type of government they were going to have two months after Islamic revolution in 1979. Thanks for the concern though!
            LOL. given the opportunity.

            "This is what the Ayatollah says we are doing. If you don't like it, we will chop off your head."
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            • myboynoah
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 21719

              #36
              Originally posted by MindfulCoug View Post
              First of all this was not an execution .The guy was taking his heart medicine while overdosing on tranquilizers, supplied by the prison.He did receive treatment in the prison infirmary. but unfortunately deceased nonetheless.
              Isn't anyone else's "execution-disguised-as-a-drug-overdose"-spidey sense going off?

              How unfortunate.
              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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              • LA Ute
                Receiver of Memory
                • Nov 2008
                • 19512

                #37
                Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                Isn't anyone else's "execution-disguised-as-a-drug-overdose"-spidey sense going off?

                How unfortunate.
                You need to do something about that mean and suspicious nature of yours.
                “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                ― W.H. Auden


                "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                • myboynoah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 21719

                  #38
                  Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                  You need to do something about that mean and suspicious nature of yours.
                  Guantanamo Bay opened my eyes to the nefarious nature of authoritarian regimes.
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                  For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • TripletDaddy
                    sweet triple
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 58186

                    #39
                    The timing of this is interesting

                    http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/...ist/index.html

                    This woman is being jailed for 8 years under the guise of "espionage," although the charges seem to indicate that she was acting as a reporter without a license to do such. There don't seem to be any actual allegations of espionage against Iran, somuch as being a reporter in Iran after her press pass had been revoked.

                    Democratic U.S. Sen. Kent Conrad called the ruling "preposterous," adding that the "charges against her are baseless."
                    "She was tried in a secret trial without her attorney even being present. That is a travesty of justice."
                    U.S. Sen. Byron Dorgan called the ruling "a shocking miscarriage of justice."
                    "The Iranian government has held a secret trial, will not make public any evidence, and sentenced an American citizen to eight years in prison for a crime she didn't commit," the Democratic senator said.
                    U.S. Rep. Earl Pomeroy, D-North Dakota, said he was "dismayed at the verdict from the secret trial of Roxana Saberi."
                    Looking forward to mindful's take on this latest one.
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                    • wuapinmon
                      Soul Plumber
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 30711

                      #40
                      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      The timing of this is interesting

                      http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/...ist/index.html

                      This woman is being jailed for 8 years under the guise of "espionage," although the charges seem to indicate that she was acting as a reporter without a license to do such. There don't seem to be any actual allegations of espionage against Iran, somuch as being a reporter in Iran after her press pass had been revoked.



                      Looking forward to mindful's take on this latest one.
                      I'm guessing it'll be a lickspittle response....something like this:

                      "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                      The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                      • wuapinmon
                        Soul Plumber
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 30711

                        #41


                        Look at this "article." The entire thing refers to "Tel Aviv" making decisions.....showing their clear bias against Israel calling Jerusalem the capital.


                        This is worse than postage stamps from Latin America in the 70's and 80's.
                        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                        • MindfulCoug
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 395

                          #42
                          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                          The timing of this is interesting

                          http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/...ist/index.html

                          This woman is being jailed for 8 years under the guise of "espionage," although the charges seem to indicate that she was acting as a reporter without a license to do such. There don't seem to be any actual allegations of espionage against Iran, somuch as being a reporter in Iran after her press pass had been revoked.

                          Looking forward to mindful's take on this latest one.
                          My take is her determination on reporting without her credential being renewed is pretty much telling (revoked in 2006) .Having been in a place where has no friendly tie with the US (to say the least ) for seven years she should have known what to do and what to avoid .Fortunately enough she has not been ended up landing in Guantanamo,with no trial to be held neither detainment to be asked.

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                          • MindfulCoug
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 395

                            #43
                            Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                            I'm guessing it'll be a lickspittle response....something like this:

                            http://www.presstv.ir/default.aspx

                            Mind the direct link ?

                            You are kinda "cute" waving freedom flag wearing "what happened happened" t-shirt ,dragging the bag of glory and honor, the Almighty US Army has given to you by the way.

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                            • TripletDaddy
                              sweet triple
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 58186

                              #44
                              Originally posted by MindfulCoug View Post
                              My take is her determination on reporting without her credential being renewed is pretty much telling (revoked in 2006) .Having been in a place where has no friendly tie with the US (to say the least ) for seven years she should have known what to do and what to avoid .Fortunately enough she has not been ended up landing in Guantanamo,with no trial to be held neither detainment to be asked.
                              Good point.

                              Well, she will learn her lesson for reporting without a license. 8 years in prison sounds about right.

                              Or do you think they will just chop off her head?
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                              • MindfulCoug
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 395

                                #45
                                9/11 was good for us

                                Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                                http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020101

                                Look at this "article." The entire thing refers to "Tel Aviv" making decisions.....showing their clear bias against Israel calling Jerusalem the capital.

                                This is worse than postage stamps from Latin America in the 70's and 80's.

                                The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel.


                                We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq,
                                I think you should be grateful to Hamas to hold back this beast.
                                Last edited by MindfulCoug; 04-18-2009, 09:59 PM. Reason: inserting link

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