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Kill Newt's Chances of Winning the Republican Nomination for President of the US
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This is a bit harsh:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-in-tampa.htmlSantorum was asked about his aggressive intervention in the tragic case of Terri Schiavo, the Floridian whose husband wanted to honor her wish to be disconnected from life support. You could almost see the thought bubble over Newt Gingrich’s head when the topic turned to a helpless woman in a hospital bed: “Obviously, you divorce her.”"I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
- Goatnapper'96
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This is me also.Originally posted by Moliere View Post
I'm much more anti-Newt than I am pro-Romney. I'm fine with Romney losing the general, but I can't stand the possibility of him losing the primary to Newt.A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali
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It can't all be wedding cake.
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The good stuff from the piece:Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
Then came the twist. Then came the most remarkable political surprise since the 2010 midterm: The struggling Democratic class-war narrative is suddenly given life and legitimacy by … Republicans! Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry make the case that private equity as practiced by Romney’s Bain Capital is nothing more than vulture capitalism looting companies and sucking them dry while casually destroying the lives of workers.
Richard Trumka of the AFL-CIO nods approvingly. Michael Moore wonders aloud whether Gingrich has stolen his staff. The assault on Bain/Romney instantly turns Obama’s class-war campaign from partisan attack into universal complaint.
Suddenly Romney’s wealth, practices and taxes take centre stage. And why not? If leading Republicans are denouncing rapacious capitalism that enriches the 1 percent while impoverishing everyone else, should this not be the paramount issue in a campaign occurring at a time of economic distress?
Now, economic inequality is an important issue, but the idea that it is the cause of America’s current economic troubles is absurd. Yet, in a stroke, the Republicans have succeeded in turning a Democratic talking point — a last-ditch attempt to salvage re-election by distracting from their record — into a central focus of the nation’s political discourse.
How quickly has the zeitgeist changed? Wednesday, the Republican House reconvened to reject Obama’s planned $1.2 trillion debt-ceiling increase. (Lacking Senate concurrence, the debt ceiling will be raised nonetheless.) No one noticed. It made page A16 of The New York Times. All eyes are on South Carolina and Romney’s taxes.
This is no mainstream media conspiracy. This is the GOP maneuvering itself right onto Obama terrain.
The president is a very smart man. But if he wins in November, that won’t be the reason. It will be luck. He could not have chosen more self-destructive adversaries“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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National Review says "No Newt:"
There is much more to general elections than debates, and there is much more to the presidency than giving speeches. On an intellectual level Gingrich knows this, but he has little experience either in contesting elections with large numbers of voters of varying views or in running large organizations. Romney has executive experience, unlike Gingrich or Santorum, and in past elections voters have seemed to value that experience. But at least Santorum, like Romney, has been elected to statewide office before, and like Romney has shown himself able to reach beyond the Republican base in doing so. Santorum’s record in this regard beats Romney’s, since Santorum won statewide in Pennsylvania twice. Only Gingrich has never been elected to office from anything larger than a congressional district; only Gingrich has never had to reach beyond the Republican base vote to win an election.
Gingrich has been a nationally known figure for a long time: when the economy was booming and when it has been in a slump; when Republicans were on top and when the public disliked them; when the national mood was sunny and when it was sour. Amid all the tumult of the last 18 years there has been this constant: Gingrich has never been popular. Polls have never shown more than 43 percent of the public viewing him favorably at any point in his career. Gingrich backers say that he is inspiring. What he mostly seems to inspire is opposition.
It should go without saying that Gingrich also offers more material than the other candidates for Democrats to drive his numbers in the wrong direction. Any Republican nominee will draw criticism for being too biased toward the rich. Not every Republican nominee will be attacked for cruelty in his personal life.
None of these candidates can be guaranteed to beat Obama (or run a successful White House), and under the right circumstances any of them could. For Republicans to choose Gingrich, though, would be a gamble, with everything from the Supreme Court to Obamacare to our nation’s alliances riding on the outcome.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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FT's Rachman - Obama v Romney is the debate America needs. Go w/ Newt if you're just interested in some fun theater.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/c42ea...#axzz1kO4UDFTwUte-ī sunt fīmī differtī
It can't all be wedding cake.
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Yea, but also interesting how someone like Begala compares the two praising the Elder Romney.Originally posted by Flystripper View Postbut not untrue
Begala would be part of the clan that roasted Romney senior. I fine it interesting each nite some democratic strategist gets asked his opinion on the Republican primary. Anyone really not think they have some kind of agenda when giving their answers.
The best is when they bring on Debbie Wasserman-Shitlz. It is like fingernails accross the chalkboard and I can only last a few paragraphs.
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Destroy Newt, Politico killshot:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71903.html
New details from Newt Gingrich’s $35,000-a-year contract with Freddie Mac show that the Republican hopeful wasn’t just a boardroom consultant, but served as a high-profile booster for the beleaguered organization. He even gave a rallying speech to dozens of the group’s political action committee donors in the spring of 2007.
Shortly after the “rah, rah” speech, as one source described it, Gingrich gave an interview for the Freddie Mac website, where he supported the group’s model at length. The interview is no longer on Freddie’s site.Ute-ī sunt fīmī differtī
It can't all be wedding cake.
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Rich Lowry: "Newt is less lovable and more roguish than Bill Clinton." Ouch.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ton-rich-lowry
Only one other politician in America could have played the victim card so expertly when confronted by the story of a wronged woman. Only one other politician would have thrown out so many obfuscating “facts,” or turned his lavish anger on and off so quickly. Only one other politician would have dared hope to turn such an embarrassing imbroglio to his advantage. If he was watching the debate somewhere, Bill Clinton must have chuckled in admiration and thought, “Well played, my friend. Well played.”
Newt is the Republican Clinton — shameless, needy, hopelessly egotistical. The two former adversaries and tentative partners have largely the same set of faults and talents. They are self-indulgent, prone to disregard rules inconvenient to them, and consumed by ambition. They are glib, knowledgeable, and imaginative. They are baby boomers who hadn’t fully grown up even when they occupied two of the most powerful offices in the land.Last edited by LA Ute; 01-24-2012, 12:46 PM.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Calling engineers:
How do we get that interview? It's gotta be accessible via the Way Back project or some such, no? Ted? JL?New details from Newt Gingrich’s $35,000-a-year contract with Freddie Mac show that the Republican hopeful wasn’t just a boardroom consultant, but served as a high-profile booster for the beleaguered organization. He even gave a rallying speech to dozens of the group’s political action committee donors in the spring of 2007.
Shortly after the “rah, rah” speech, as one source described it, Gingrich gave an interview for the Freddie Mac website, where he supported the group’s model at length. The interview is no longer on Freddie’s site.Ute-ī sunt fīmī differtī
It can't all be wedding cake.
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From the Christian Broadcasting Network's chief political correspondent:
Exclusive: Gingrich to Evangelicals: My Past Weaknesses Make Me 'More Normal'
Some may scratch their heads wondering how and why Newt Gingrich could be resonating with a wide swath of evangelicals but it’s a fact. That was proven to be true in South Carolina and if he wins in Florida it will be in large part to evangelicals who are working tirelessly behind the scenes to spread the good word about Newt. There will be a big pastor conference call this week and many more evangelical-type events including some church appearances.
If you want to understand specifically why many evangelicals are flocking to Newt (excuse the pun), read my detailed analysis here.
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I don't plan to vote for him in either the primary or the general, but he is the best pure politician we have had since Bill Clinton.Originally posted by LA Ute View PostFrom the Christian Broadcasting Network's chief political correspondent:
Exclusive: Gingrich to Evangelicals: My Past Weaknesses Make Me 'More Normal'

I think he has no chance to be elected but if he did my guess is his desire to be successful would force him, similar to Clinton, to work with the other side and govern. That is something we have not had for many years.Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
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Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View PostI don't plan to vote for him in either the primary or the general, but he is the best pure politician we have had since Bill Clinton.
I think he has no chance to be elected but if he did my guess is his desire to be successful would force him, similar to Clinton, to work with the other side and govern. That is something we have not had for many years.
It wasn't Bill's "desire to be successful" that forced him that direction - it was the unholy ass-stomping that he suffered in 1994 followed by a internal battle won by the DLC types who crafted a strategic push to co-opt the center-right (one of my company's primary advisers was one of the three guys who authored that push and he likes to talk about it now - a lot).
So I guess a "desire to live another day/term" and a "desire to be successful" might come from the same place, but Clinton's move to the right began with the survival impulse.Ute-ī sunt fīmī differtī
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