Prison Sex As Punishment?

[NorthwestUteFan]

Prison Sex is one of Tool's best songs.

Long live Maynard!

[pellegrino]

I can't imagine any circumstances, whether in prison or the outside world, where I could get it up to rape a dude.

I don't see how rapists get it up for female victims.

[NorthwestUteFan]

I don't see how rapists get it up for female victims.

Power. It is all about power and domination.

[Art Vandelay]

The next time you think of stealing $0.01 from millions of people, remember this is what happens at federal pound me in the @#$ prison

[dabrockster]

I am mixed on this question.. The wording of your question is interesting to me... Your question uses the word, "The Risk" which I think is different then the action of it happening.. Prison life is not Club Med..


There is "The Risk" of being shanked, killed, loss of loved ones, divorce, etc while in prison.. Maybe I am cold in this regard. I could care less if the person has to anguish in the possibility of this happening to him and is part of the make-up of prison.. There are many things a person deals with (Mentally) in prison.. Knowledge of this possibility is one of them..

Now, does this mean I condone it actually happening. No way in hell. This is where the system is broken. What steps are taken to stop this.. I am sure there are many rules to help curb this from happening. But again, prison is not a place where law-abiding citizens abide.. Many of these individuals have found ways to get around the law. That is why they are there..


Good poll/question. Very thought provoking. I am curious to hear what others think...

[Indy Coug]

I see no benefit to allowing inmates to commit all sorts of unspeakable acts of violence upon each other. Prisons should protect inmates from each other, as well as us from them.

Since most will at some point re-enter society, I think it's in our collective interest that they aren't effed up any more than they would be otherwise because they are survivors (or unpunished perpetrators) of rape.

[Omaha 680]

The next time you think of stealing $0.01 from millions of people, remember this is what happens at federal pound me in the @#$ prison

The eerie sense of security that prevails on the streets of lower Manhattan obscures, and depends upon, a system of state-sponsored suffering as vicious and widespread as any in human history. Dismantling the system of American gulags, and holding accountable those responsible for their operation, presents the most urgent humanitarian imperative of our time.

That paragraph is staggering in its lack of historical perspective. I'm sure I'm significantly to the right of the author...I support capital punishment and elements of the war on drugs. Yet even I recognize the need for prison reform in the United States. But to jump off the deep end and compare them to gulags and name them a "system of state-sponsored suffering as vicious and widespread as any in human history" is ridiculous. Also, I can think of several humanitarian imperatives that should come ahead of US prison reform.

[SeattleUte]

This is probably the worst thread ever on cuf. Is this worth debating? Is it a provocative question to anyone? I hope not. What kind of a country do people want to live in? America is great mainly because there is a rule of law that means something and respect for civil liberty and personal dignity of even the most loathsome Americans.

That is all I have to say in this disgusting thread.

[Omaha 680]

I see no benefit to allowing inmates to commit all sorts of unspeakable acts of violence upon each other. Prisons should protect inmates from each other, as well as us from them.

Since most will at some point re-enter society, I think it's in our collective interest that they aren't effed up any more than they would be otherwise because they are survivors (or unpunished perpetrators) of rape.

I completely agree. The most effective US prisons are the ones that avoid overcrowding and keep the inmates separated in residential pods, where there are never more than a few dozen together at one time. The living conditions are more humane and they are protected from each other and guard abuse. However, those kinds of prisons are very expensive.

[Mormon Red Death]

http://www.businessinsider.com/jail-...s-alone-2012-6

As soon as the lights went out at night, Sandusky's fellow inmates at the Centre County Correctional Facility serenaded him with a chorus from Pink Floyd's "The Wall":
"Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone!"

[dabrockster]

This is probably the worst thread ever on cuf. Is this worth debating? Is it a provocative question to anyone? I hope not. What kind of a country do people want to live in? America is great mainly because there is a rule of law that means something and respect for civil liberty and personal dignity of even the most loathsome Americans.

That is all I have to say in this disgusting thread.

[lambdacoug]

Should it be considered by whom? I would certainly consider it part and parcel of prison time, if I were somehow imprisoned. Therefore, it is part of the punishment, IMO. Should it be considered part of the official punishment of incarceration. Hell no. I think precautions should be taken to protect inmates from other inmates, but success will be limited.

[RobinFinderson]

This is probably the worst thread ever on cuf. Is this worth debating? Is it a provocative question to anyone? I hope not. What kind of a country do people want to live in? America is great mainly because there is a rule of law that means something and respect for civil liberty and personal dignity of even the most loathsome Americans.

That is all I have to say in this disgusting thread.

Perhaps the circles you run in are so rarefied that no one even casually jokes about Sandusky getting his just rewards at the hands of a prison Bluto, but I assure you, many people make light of this. It is common. I don't think that a thread that takes the temperature of CUF on this issue, and reveals the apparent decency of most folks here, is 'the worst thread ever.'

The problem on this issue is that it would be very expensive to protect inmates from rape. This is such a hugely important moral issue. When we talk about the Christian value of standing up for the 'least among us,' few people think of prison inmates, but we should.

[SeattleUte]

Perhaps the circles you run in are so rarefied that no one even casually jokes about Sandusky getting his just rewards at the hands of a prison Bluto, but I assure you, many people make light of this. It is common. I don't think that a thread that takes the temperature of CUF on this issue, and reveals the apparent decency of most folks here, is 'the worst thread ever.'

The problem on this issue is that it would be very expensive to protect inmates from rape. This is such a hugely important moral issue. When we talk about the Christian value of standing up for the 'least among us,' few people think of prison inmates, but we should.

That wasn't the original intent of the thread. I think those jokes are disgusting too however.

[Omaha 680]

The problem on this issue is that it would be very expensive to protect inmates from rape. This is such a hugely important moral issue. When we talk about the Christian value of standing up for the 'least among us,' few people think of prison inmates, but we should.

This is the irony. Those on the left complain about money in the prison industry in the United States. But to make prisons safer for inmates and ensure that criminals don't become more violent while in incarcerated, we will need to spend much, much more money on prisons. I think it's an investment worth making once states get their finances under control.