Prison Sex As Punishment?

[wuapinmon]

This is an interesting blog post about one person's experience in a low-security prison:

http://therecoveringpolitician.com/contributors/jeffs/jeff-smith-sexliesandprison

I used to belong to the camp that thought that things like the ending to [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeMeDihwyrg"]Sublime - Date Rape - YouTube[/nomedia] song were just punishments for crimes committed. However, I've since concluded that that's an additional punishment that's cruel and unusual, and that I wouldn't wish upon anyone. I don't feel that I could call myself Christian if I hoped for the rape and torture of a person, condemned or otherwise.

What about yall? Am I right? Naive?

[NorthwestUteFan]

Not only no, but 'Oh my God, Hell No!!!' I won't condone that type of thing and believe the state should do what is necessary to prevent attacks.

But that won't change the fact that it happens, and often in exchange for stuff/protection/etc.

But then again I was in favor of putting Jeffrey Dahmer in with the general population...

[Jacob]

I agree that there is an element of cruel and unusual to it and that the conditions that allow it in some prisons may very well rise to the level of being constitutionally suspect under the 8th amendment.

[Slim]

Maybe it is because no one in my family has ever been the victim of a violent crime (or violent sex crime), but I'm not the type to want to severely punish criminals just to see them punished.

I think people who commit crimes need to either be rehabilitated (if possible) or kept away from the general public (if rehabilitation is not possible).

I think that, much of the time, prison as a form of punishment (and the stuff that goes on in there) is just a waste of taxpayer money.

If we send people to prison, let's do it with the intent of keeping creeps off the streets. I care very little about whether they are being adequately punished as that affects me much less than just keeping them away from my family.

[snowcat]

Rape should have no place in our penal system period.

[falafel]

Rape should have no place in our penile system period.

[Eddie]

I agree with those who say that prisoners should be protected from being raped. If that isn't the sentence they received - then it shouldn't be viewed as part of the punishment.

That said - I recognize that there are certain risks associated with living with a population that has a higher than normal proportion of people who are violent criminals.

And I think that - to a degree - folks who break the law need to consider that not being able to choose the neighborhood is part of the consequences of incarceration.


And all of that aside - as someone who had some inside knowledge of a number of child sexual abuse perpetrators...let's just say that there are some for whom being taken advantage of in prison would be too good for them. I don't think it would be appropriate to sentence them to that as punishment - but neither would I feel bad if they happened to experience it. And - what the cops would've done to them if given the chance was much much worse.

[Devildog]

What about yall? Am I right? Naive?

Hell yes, I think you're naive.

You can tell people like this that you think prison rape ought to be ceased.

They have next to nothing to lose.

This guy killed the transportation officer that took him to the hospital.

He probably doesn't care what you think.

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[falafel]

I can't imagine any circumstances, whether in prison or the outside world, where I could get it up to rape a dude.

[New Mexican Disaster]

I can't imagine any circumstances, whether in prison or the outside world, where I could get it up to rape a dude.

I am glad to hear that. I would seriously wonder about you if you could

[falafel]

I am glad to hear that. I would seriously wonder about you if you could

Yeah. Whew!

But, apparently, there is no shortage of guys in prison that can. That's what I don't understand.

[YOhio]

Prison Sex is one of Tool's best songs.

[TripletDaddy]

Is there anyone more oversexed on this board than whatshappeningman?

[wuapinmon]

Is there anyone more oversexed on this board than whatshappeningman?

I'm all talk.

[NorthwestUteFan]

I can't imagine any circumstances, whether in prison or the outside world, where I could get it up to rape a dude.

A friend from high school has been in prison since 1995. (Remember the robbers dressed as clowns at the Million Dollar Saloon? That was him, his 'partner' in crime shot a cop).

He says 'everybody has needs. But you are only gay if you liked it'. That is the thought process.

I reread the article. Most of those guys were serving long sentences for drug possession. It seems to me that justice would be better served for those guys (the non violent ones) if they were instead convicted of a misdemeanor, sentenced to treatment and community service than to put them in prison for 5-20 years.
End soap box.