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That was really well done.
Did he really say 'masturbating' on TV?
"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
I wonder what percentage of LDS members who go to church at least 3 times a month are against birth control?
I will bet it is in the 25-30% range and is a legacy of teaching in the 60's and 70's. Romney however was raised in a liberal mormon household and therefor probably was not taught birth control was wrong.
No way is it that high. Maybe among the over 70 crowd, but that would be it.
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No way is it that high. Maybe among the over 70 crowd, but that would be it.
In my ward (not that I ask) I can only think of one family who might have an issue with BC. Right or (more likely) wrong, I've counseled several to be married individuals to take time before starting their family and get to know one another first; have some alone time and few disagreements, before adding parenthood into the equation.
Last edited by Art Vandelay; 03-20-2012, 01:57 PM.
In my ward (not that I ask) I can only think of one family who might have an issue with BC. Right or (more likely) wrong, I've counseled several to be married individuals to take time before starting their family and get to know one another first; have a some alone time and few disagreements before adding parenthood into the equation.
That is good advice.
When my buddy got engaged (early 80's), he and his fiance did a pre-marriage interview with her bishop. At the end of the interview the bishop leaned a little closer and in his best general authority voice stated "And remember: we don't believe in birth control. We believe in self control." Shocked, they asked her father if that was true. He said, "Oh don't worry about him. He is crazy."
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
When my buddy got engaged (early 80's), he and his fiance did a pre-marriage interview with her bishop. At the end of the interview the bishop leaned a little closer and in his best general authority voice stated "And remember: we don't believe in birth control. We believe in self control." Shocked, they asked her father if that was true. He said, "Oh don't worry about him. He is crazy."
I've probably mentioned before that during a premarital interview, Mrs. PAC's SP told her that she should never allow her husband to see her naked, and that except for bathing in private, the garment should remain on at all times. When she reported this I recoiled but asked cautiously (since she was and is very devout), "What do you think of that counsel?" She just started laughing and said, "Don't worry, occasionally we get counsel that's best ignored." Whew.
I've probably mentioned before that during a premarital interview, Mrs. PAC's SP told her that she should never allow her husband to see her naked, and that except for bathing in private, the garment should remain on at all times. When she reported this I recoiled but asked cautiously (since she was and is very devout), "What do you think of that counsel?" She just started laughing and said, "Don't worry, occasionally we get counsel that's best ignored." Whew.
Wow. He must have been a big fan of Mark E. Petersen.
"Friendship is the grand fundamental principle of Mormonism" - Joseph Smith Jr.
MJ was RSP back in our Utah ward and the bishop of that ward was told quite clearly by the SP that he should never counsel couples to use birth control. This was around 2005. I have no idea if the bishop ever acted on the counsel since I'd never ask my bishop something like that.
"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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