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  • #61
    Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
    Ok, it is your opinion. How did you come by it? Are you willing to defend your opinion?
    How did I come by it? Life experience.

    Defend it? For what purpose?
    "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


    "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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    • #62
      Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
      The raw habitat rewards the generalists. Modern life rewards the specialist. The ability for companies and individuals to hyper-specialize is a privilege sustained to a great degree by governments. Individuals and companies that reap the benefits of this privilege should pay for it. They do this with taxes.
      Oh, all right. Since you say so...

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      • #63
        Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
        How did I come by it? Life experience.

        Defend it? For what purpose?
        For the purpose of probing your own ideas for weakness. That is why I like to argue about stuff. I see it as the process by which I test my ideas for weak parts so that my ideas can evolve and get better.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
          For the purpose of probing your own ideas for weakness. That is why I like to argue about stuff. I see it as the process by which I test my ideas for weak parts so that my ideas can evolve and get better.
          Understood.

          I'm not like that. I see no reason to defend my opinion unless I get paid to do it.
          "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


          "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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          • #65
            Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
            Understood.

            I'm not like that. I see no reason to defend my opinion unless I get paid to do it.
            How much? A penny for your thoughts?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by beelzebabette View Post
              Oh, all right. Since you say so...
              It's a working model. Care to share your working model?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                How much? A penny for your thoughts?
                How much? When you offer the correct amount, I'll know.
                "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                  How much? When you offer the correct amount, I'll know.
                  How about the promise of an eternity of service in the afterlife? If you share your thoughts, I swear to offer you my eternal servitude after death. You can trust that God will enforce the contract.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                    How about the promise of an eternity of service in the afterlife? If you share your thoughts, I swear to offer you my eternal servitude after death. You can trust that God will enforce the contract.
                    Cash only, friend.
                    "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                    "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                      Cash only, friend.
                      The charitable and generous spirit of Don Knotts weeps for you, my selfish friend.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                        The charitable and generous spirit of Don Knotts weeps for you, my selfish friend.
                        Selfish? Because I don't want you to be indebted to me?
                        "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                        "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                          Selfish? Because I don't want you to be indebted to me?
                          There are people like DDD, SU and myself, who come here day after day and give it up for free, for the benefit of the tribe, while free loaders like yourself will only do it for cash. You are engaged in a type of priestcraft!

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                            There are people like DDD, SU and myself, who come here day after day and give it up for free, for the benefit of the tribe, while free loaders like yourself will only do it for cash. You are engaged in a type of priestcraft!
                            Touche.
                            "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                            "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                              Benefits for poor people, especially the working poor, reflects a belief that those people DO contribute to the nation's well being, but just not with money. In other words, their labor and consumption help stabilize the social system in ways that are not reflected in their salary.
                              Oh brother. Come back down to earth.

                              It's the symbolism of these moves that bug me. If I'm middle class (really, these are the people who stand to benefit--the truly indigent already have socialized medicine), I'm looking at a guy that's offering me a bunch of goodies and offering to pay me to take them. It's as if they're completely free and we were just waiting for the right guy to produce them out of thin air. It sends a bad message and sets a bad precedent of pandering.

                              Contrast this with "We'd like to finally take care of the healthcare needs of everyone. It's going to be expensive, but as a country we think it's worth it. Therefore, everyone is going to have to pitch in to help pay for it, some more than others, each according to their ability, but we're all going to feel the cost."
                              At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                              -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                                Touche.
                                I'd say you both pwned each other once or twice in that exchange.....it was fun to watch.
                                "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                                The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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