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  • hostile
    lollygagger
    • Dec 2009
    • 5736

    #1801
    Looks like Newt has this thing locked up now. Watch out Obama.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/06/showbi...showbiz&page=1
    "You interns are like swallows. You shit all over my patients for six weeks and then fly off."

    "Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."

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    • myboynoah
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 21719

      #1802
      Originally posted by hostile View Post
      Looks like Newt has this thing locked up now. Watch out Obama.

      http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/06/showbi...showbiz&page=1
      I love these occassional glimpses into the Gingrich campaign braintrust.
      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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      • LA Ute
        Receiver of Memory
        • Nov 2008
        • 19512

        #1803
        Originally posted by hostile View Post
        Looks like Newt has this thing locked up now. Watch out Obama.

        http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/06/showbi...showbiz&page=1
        That creature living on top of Chuck's head is scary.
        “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
        ― W.H. Auden


        "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
        -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


        "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
        --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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        • San Juan Sun
          Kicked to the curb
          • Dec 2009
          • 9214

          #1804
          Keep in mind that no delegates will be awarded tonight, but...

          Santorum will likely win Minnesota and Missouri. Missouri is especially interesting because it appears that Newt's failure to get on the ballot there is turning his supporters to Santorum as a protest vote agains Mitt. However, the large population counties that are more pro-Mitt have yet to report. But will that be enough to overcome the combined Santorum-Gingrich vote? I don't think so, but the vote totals will be a lot closer than the 30% margin for Santorum.

          Santorum will win Minnesota despite Bachman and Norm Coleman endorsing Romney. Those evangelicals really don't like Mitt.

          Colorado will be a Mitt win.

          In the end, Santorum wins the night clearly, although some of his support in Missouri is inflated by protest vote. Of course, this is Santorum's second look, and his support absolutely plummeted after Iowa once his record was scrutinized. Will he be able to withstand a second look?

          Mitt is fine, and his camp will correctly point out that no delegates were won tonight. He needs to develop a cogent reply to Santorum's Romneycare attacks by the Feb. 22 debate. And he needs to hit Santorum's record now.

          Newt is hurt by tonight. He's not the Yankees tonight (Romney) and he's not the Red Sox (tonight it's Santorum). Tonight he's the Rays, still potent but losing some visibility.

          Paul also will be hurt tonight. Yet again not really in contention to win a state, and since he wins no proportional delegates tonight, he loses momentum.
          "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

          - Ty Cobb

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          • Color Me Badd Fan
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 12521

            #1805
            Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
            Keep in mind that no delegates will be awarded tonight, but...

            Santorum will likely win Minnesota and Missouri. Missouri is especially interesting because it appears that Newt's failure to get on the ballot there is turning his supporters to Santorum as a protest vote agains Mitt. However, the large population counties that are more pro-Mitt have yet to report. But will that be enough to overcome the combined Santorum-Gingrich vote? I don't think so, but the vote totals will be a lot closer than the 30% margin for Santorum.

            Santorum will win Minnesota despite Bachman and Norm Coleman endorsing Romney. Those evangelicals really don't like Mitt.

            Colorado will be a Mitt win.

            In the end, Santorum wins the night clearly, although some of his support in Missouri is inflated by protest vote. Of course, this is Santorum's second look, and his support absolutely plummeted after Iowa once his record was scrutinized. Will he be able to withstand a second look?

            Mitt is fine, and his camp will correctly point out that no delegates were won tonight. He needs to develop a cogent reply to Santorum's Romneycare attacks by the Feb. 22 debate. And he needs to hit Santorum's record now.

            Newt is hurt by tonight. He's not the Yankees tonight (Romney) and he's not the Red Sox (tonight it's Santorum). Tonight he's the Rays, still potent but losing some visibility.

            Paul also will be hurt tonight. Yet again not really in contention to win a state, and since he wins no proportional delegates tonight, he loses momentum.
            I think the morons who support Newt will support Santorum, but I'm not sure if the Santorum supporters would all flock to Newt. Newt is radioactive and I think a lot of Santorum's supporters realize that.

            As I've said before, Santorum has a distant, but plausible path in the general election. Gingrich has no path.
            Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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            • Viking
              Banned
              • Jun 2009
              • 6470

              #1806
              The amount of anti-mormon sentiment that exists in the US is scary. Wow.

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              • pellegrino
                miserere me
                • Jan 2009
                • 12100

                #1807
                Missouri is full of evangelicals, there's no question they'll turn to Santorum over Mitt w/ Newt out of the race.
                Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                Alessandro Manzoni

                Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                pelagius

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                • Viking
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 6470

                  #1808
                  Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                  Missouri is full of evangelicals, there's no question they'll turn to Santorum over Mitt w/ Newt out of the race.
                  Missouri is a gawd awful place.

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                  • San Juan Sun
                    Kicked to the curb
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9214

                    #1809
                    Dear CNN, Redstate, Hotair commenters, etc.,

                    Reports of Mitt Romney's demise are being greatly exaggerated.
                    "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

                    - Ty Cobb

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                    • pellegrino
                      miserere me
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 12100

                      #1810
                      Originally posted by Viking View Post
                      Missouri is a gawd awful place.
                      Actually, I liked it very much. I lived in Columbia for a few years and had it been my lot to stay there then I would have been just fine with it.

                      That said, evangelicals and the religious right suck rocks.
                      Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                      God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                      Alessandro Manzoni

                      Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                      pelagius

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                      • Viking
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 6470

                        #1811
                        Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                        Actually, I liked it very much. I lived in Columbia for a few years and had it been my lot to stay there then I would have been just fine with it.

                        That said, evangelicals and the religious right suck rocks.
                        The place itself is beautiful. Evangelicals ruin it for me.

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                        • Surfah
                          Where's Wallace?
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 33726

                          #1812
                          Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                          Actually, I liked it very much. I lived in Columbia for a few years and had it been my lot to stay there then I would have been just fine with it.

                          That said, evangelicals and the religious right suck rocks.
                          Columbia is where Amish kids run away to.
                          "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                          -Turtle
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                          • San Juan Sun
                            Kicked to the curb
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 9214

                            #1813
                            Listening to Santorum's speech. A few thoughts:

                            An arguably crass mention of his ill daughter
                            He will attempt to paint Romney as ideologically similar to Obama
                            States that Obama wants to "rule over" America
                            Notably more critical of Obama's motives and nature than Romney
                            By my count six references to Romney, none to Gingrich

                            IMHO, these next 72 hours are the high water mark of the Santorum campaign.
                            "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

                            - Ty Cobb

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                            • pellegrino
                              miserere me
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 12100

                              #1814
                              Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                              Columbia is where Amish kids run away to.
                              I know, we saw a few.
                              Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                              God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                              Alessandro Manzoni

                              Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                              pelagius

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                              • pellegrino
                                miserere me
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 12100

                                #1815
                                Originally posted by Viking View Post
                                The place itself is beautiful. Evangelicals ruin it for me.
                                they keep a lower profile in Columbia, plenty of liberal profs in town.
                                Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                                God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                                Alessandro Manzoni

                                Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                                pelagius

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