Confirmed: Jon Huntsman is a wanker

[Donuthole]

No disrespect, but the other two, with their pencil-necks, have a bit of a bobble-head thing going on. Keep an eye out for this phenomenon -- big head relative to neck thickness and body size. It looks weird to me.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[San Juan Sun]

When he heard that the LDS Church had lifted the ban on Black males holding the priesthood, he pulled his car over and wept....

Yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's not true.

Evidence?

[oxcoug]

When he heard that the LDS Church had lifted the ban on Black males holding the priesthood, he pulled his car over and wept....

Yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's not true.

That seems both cool and sensible since you have no basis for questioning it... hey why don't you tell me something emotional and personal and true and I'll just tell you your lying, cool?
His story is credible for many reasons - any active LDS growing up when and where he did and going to school where he did wld have been painfully aware of how wrong the policy was policy was and for Romney it wld have been esp acute given his Dads vocal public support for the civil rights movement. His story is entirely credible.

[HauteCoug]

Seriously pathetic. It must be frustrating to find out that there are actually some offices you can't buy.

Oh come on. It's how Utah got Mike Lee.

Trust me - this is a way to get Utahns on board with Huntsman instead of Romney, and it might be a pathetic attempt, but I see exactly where it's coming from: Utahns trust the Father-Son political role.

Huntsman has made me so sad with his lame ass PR, mostly because he's got the appeal of a Rudy Giuliani (sans marital infidelity).

[HauteCoug]

That seems both cool and sensible since you have no basis for questioning it... hey why don't you tell me something emotional and personal and true and I'll just tell you your lying, cool?
His story is credible for many reasons - any active LDS growing up when and where he did and going to school where he did wld have been painfully aware of how wrong the policy was policy was and for Romney it wld have been esp acute given his Dads vocal public support for the civil rights movement. His story is entirely credible.

Credible, maybe... but his wishy-washy stance on something that in my mind is a no brainer only reminds people that he's got strong "liberal" roots but doesn't want to lose his LDS fanbase.

[YOhio]

Huntsman has made me so sad with his lame ass PR, mostly because he's got the appeal of a Rudy Giuliani (sans marital infidelity).

I'm not seeing it. Not at all. They're both moderate R's, but Rudy's appeal has never really been about his policy prescriptions. It's about the tough guy New Yorker who exudes leadership. Huntsmans appeal is in his soft-toned, common sense approach that is intended to facilitate compromise.

[HauteCoug]

I'm not seeing it. Not at all. They're both moderate R's, but Rudy's appeal has never really been about his policy prescriptions. It's about the tough guy New Yorker who exudes leadership. Huntsmans appeal is in his soft-toned, common sense approach that is intended to facilitate compromise.

I should have clarified - Huntsman and Rudy are the electable Republicans, the guys that Democrats wouldn't hate to have in office. Yes, they represent different personas in demeanor, but they have little desire to be divisive politickers and instead proved to do what was best for the area over which they had governing power.

[TripletDaddy]

That seems both cool and sensible since you have no basis for questioning it... hey why don't you tell me something emotional and personal and true and I'll just tell you your lying, cool?
His story is credible for many reasons - any active LDS growing up when and where he did and going to school where he did wld have been painfully aware of how wrong the policy was policy was and for Romney it wld have been esp acute given his Dads vocal public support for the civil rights movement. His story is entirely credible.

Didn't someone on this board claim to have wept as well? I've heard that from several folks...that they started crying. I also find it hard to believe but taken at its face, What a horribly unpopular "doctrine" that was for its repudiation to cause so much shamed weeping, relief, and gladness.

[Viking]

Oh come on. It's how Utah got Mike Lee.

Trust me - this is a way to get Utahns on board with Huntsman instead of Romney, and it might be a pathetic attempt, but I see exactly where it's coming from: Utahns trust the Father-Son political role.

Huntsman has made me so sad with his lame ass PR, mostly because he's got the appeal of a Rudy Giuliani (sans marital infidelity).

[oxcoug]

but his wishy-washy stance on something that in my mind is a no brainer

What specifically are you referring to here?

[HauteCoug]

What specifically are you referring to here?

His unwillingness to take a hard line and denounce the discriminatory practices employed until the late 70s as wrong. Christians did horrible things to Muslims in the middle ages; this doesn't mean that Christianity is wrong, but rather that the situation and the way it was handled was wrong.

[YOhio]

Now Slate is going after that one thing that makes him special.

[oxcoug]

His unwillingness to take a hard line and denounce the discriminatory practices employed until the late 70s as wrong.

I'd have liked to have heard those words - "yes, it was wrong" - as well. But I don't fault him for not expressing it that way. He made it clear that in his own view not only was it wrong, but wrong in ways that impacted him on an emotional level. Yes, the words matter but he didn't try to defend the Church on it.

Christians did horrible things to Muslims in the middle ages; this doesn't mean that Christianity is wrong, but rather that the situation and the way it was handled was wrong.

Well sure it doesn't - since what this really means is that Europeans (who happened to be Christians) did horrible things to Muslims in the Middle Ages, usually under cover of religion but without any substantive basis for it even in their own religious texts. BTW - Muslims also did horrible things to Christians in the Middle Ages - with more basis in their religious texts.

But now I'm forgetting why we're discussing the religious conflicts of the Middle Ages .

[YOhio]

Douthat on Huntsman.

[oxcoug]

Jon Stewart Twitter pranks Huntsman. Totally hilarious.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jon-stewart-jon-huntsman-twitter-prank-jon-hamm-267561

But props must be given to Huntsman for taking it stride.