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  • #76
    Originally posted by creekster View Post
    I know it is not realistic. I guess I was trying to make a point indirectly and give us somethign to think about.
    I was just looking for a reason to sound Shakespearesque. I don't really care one way or the other.
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    • #77
      I don't have too much of a problem with seatbelt laws for children, but agree with creekster about adults being able to opt out, as long as they pay for their own medical costs. I wear a seatbelt because it's a habit I learned when I started driving before the laws were passed.

      That said, I'd rather be in a 1965 Buick Electra without a seatbelt than a 2010 Prius wearing a seatbelt.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
        That said, I'd rather be in a 1965 Buick Electra without a seatbelt than a 2010 Prius wearing a seatbelt.
        You sure?

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        • #79
          Originally posted by creekster View Post
          I have always felt like seat belt laws and helmet laws should allow opt outs(for adults only). Like organ donors, opt outs would get a little mark of some sort on their driver's licence. Part of the opt out would require them to waive any right whatsoever to any taxpayer funded medical care, long term or traumatic, of any type whatsoever following a vehicle accident. I am sympathetic to infrginements on personal freedom, but I don't want to pay for the fact that half of your brain is on the I-80 after an accident leaving you in a vegetative state.
          Yep, the minute that others have responsibility for your bad decisions, they have a stake in your bad decisions.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
            You sure?

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            I thought the same thing. The survivability that newer cars offer you in a wreck is far ahead of the metal monsters of yesteryear and it isn't even close.
            "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

            "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

            "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
              You sure?

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              Yes, I'm sure.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                Yes, I'm sure.
                Cool. I choose the Prius. As a result, my legs are crushed.

                Meanwhile, your top half just flew out the windshield and your bottom half is in the back seat. But you made your point.
                Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                  I don't have too much of a problem with seatbelt laws for children, but agree with creekster about adults being able to opt out, as long as they pay for their own medical costs. I wear a seatbelt because it's a habit I learned when I started driving before the laws were passed.

                  That said, I'd rather be in a 1965 Buick Electra without a seatbelt than a 2010 Prius wearing a seatbelt.
                  Having opt-outs on laws with caveats sounds like a lot of laws and regulations about what regulations can be imposed.

                  I am all for liberty but some of the knee jerk "nanny state" avoidance seems like "dumb ass" state enabling to me. Especially objections to seat belts, motorcycle helmets and smoking. I suppose paying a fine might help pay the costs of the "liberty" to be a dumb douche that society ends up paying.

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