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Funny how the GOP hates the Constitution. I wonder if Mike Lee still carries a version of that document in his suit pocket…"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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It’s post like this wheee you lose entire credibility and creep into Aluminum-foil hat-wearing paranoia conspiracy therapist.Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
I don't think it's fair to label this as paranoia. He did try to coup the government. There is established history there.
There are several ways the elections can be fucked with, from MAGA elections boards refusing to certify results to ICE manning polling places
Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn etc have talked about this stuff.
It's also an oversight to equate concerns about what MAGA might do since they have lionized seditionists to the lies Trump told about 2020.
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A wise man once said we should take what Trump says seriously (or something like that).Originally posted by Moliere View Post
Funny how the GOP hates the Constitution. I wonder if Mike Lee still carries a version of that document in his suit pocket…
Okay, this seems way out there in terms of doable, although I think Trump would like to see it done. My question is how exactly would it be done? Somehow get the House and Senate to pass a law that would bring all federal elections under control of the federal government? I assume that would be ruled unconstitutional, correct? So, would it require a constitutional amendment to get this done?
Why did we vote to put ourselves through this?Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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Why don't you try explaining why frank should not concern himself with these things rather than dismissing him and calling him crazy?Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
It’s post like this wheee you lose entire credibility and creep into Aluminum-foil hat-wearing paranoia conspiracy therapist.
We have masked federal agents on our streets kitted out like they are going into Fallujah strong-arming brown people, requesting IDs, and hauling some of them, including children, off to detention centers several states away for indeterminate periods of time. Plus, they have killed two American citizens in our streets. Suggesting we would be here two years ago would have been crazy town.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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I have no desire to provide the facts (Which you did when you brought up this would require the Senate and the House to pass a bill which would never happen. No way in hell would all GOP in the house be for that. I do have concerns in the senate as they are weak sauce. But SCOTUS would never let it stand.). Truthfully, the other reason is Frank is a smart guy and he knows better. When he provides a less ludicrous argument, I think we can all have a productive discussion. I have yet to see one that is reasonable.Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
Why don't you try explaining why frank should not concern himself with these things rather than dismissing him and calling him crazy?
We have masked federal agents on our streets kitted out like they are going into Fallujah strong-arming brown people, requesting IDs, and hauling some of them, including children, off to detention centers several states away for indeterminate periods of time. Plus, they have killed two American citizens in our streets. Suggesting we would be here two years ago would have been crazy town.
While I agree I never imagined ICE agents being used as weapons against some stupid-ads turf war between Walz and Trump. But I also did not expect the level of warlike behavior against federal agents as we see now. Has anyone ever thought why Biden and Obama never had issues with the level of deportations they did during their tenure in these sanctuary cities? Maybe it is because these sanctuary cities seem to only enforce re law when it fits their narrative but we’re happy to collaborate with agents back then.
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I've played the game of 'no way will that happen' with the more pessimistic members of my family. From 'Trump can't possibly win an election, no way Roe v Wade gets overturned, to no way can Trump win another term (I started getting wise at the last election). I don't bet against him anymore.Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
Why don't you try explaining why frank should not concern himself with these things rather than dismissing him and calling him crazy?
We have masked federal agents on our streets kitted out like they are going into Fallujah strong-arming brown people, requesting IDs, and hauling some of them, including children, off to detention centers several states away for indeterminate periods of time. Plus, they have killed two American citizens in our streets. Suggesting we would be here two years ago would have been crazy town.
There is no level that is too crazy that is impossible for Trump to reach. We are firmly in the 'more likely' or 'less likely' phase of any question that get posed with Trump. Sure, most of the shit he flings at the country doesn't come to fruition. But that is by design. We need to pay attention to what triggers his primitive brain centers: his unyielding belief that he can't lose an election fairly, and when he does, it's because of the twin evil powers of democrats and illegal immigrants. The election was won by a couple of hundred thousand votes in a handful of states. He just needs to intimidate enough potential voters in strategic areas to win again. In 2026, and 2028 (this one is less likely!)."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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There is an even more simple and rational explanation. Obama and Biden handled deportations the correct way. ICE and CBP were not used as a paramilitary organization with disregard for constitutional rights of both immigrants and citizens alike. That kind of approach will obviously receive pushback. Then Trump/Noem/Miller/Bovino added fuel to the fire by surging thousands more agents, ramping up the aggressiveness, and generally making asses of themselves. The proof is in the polls. America does not approve of the way ICE/CBP and their leadership are handling things.Originally posted by dabrockster View PostWhile I agree I never imagined ICE agents being used as weapons against some stupid-ads turf war between Walz and Trump. But I also did not expect the level of warlike behavior against federal agents as we see now. Has anyone ever thought why Biden and Obama never had issues with the level of deportations they did during their tenure in these sanctuary cities? Maybe it is because these sanctuary cities seem to only enforce re law when it fits their narrative but we’re happy to collaborate with agents back then.
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The problem is, Biden didn't handle incoming immigration the correct way.Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post
There is an even more simple and rational explanation. Obama and Biden handled deportations the correct way. ICE and CBP were not used as a paramilitary organization with disregard for constitutional rights of both immigrants and citizens alike. That kind of approach will obviously receive pushback. Then Trump/Noem/Miller/Bovino added fuel to the fire by surging thousands more agents, ramping up the aggressiveness, and generally making asses of themselves. The proof is in the polls. America does not approve of the way ICE/CBP and their leadership are handling things.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
"I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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I agree with your statement in regards to the flooding of cities with ICE agents. It is not the right direction and I hope this changes.Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post
There is an even more simple and rational explanation. Obama and Biden handled deportations the correct way. ICE and CBP were not used as a paramilitary organization with disregard for constitutional rights of both immigrants and citizens alike. That kind of approach will obviously receive pushback. Then Trump/Noem/Miller/Bovino added fuel to the fire by surging thousands more agents, ramping up the aggressiveness, and generally making asses of themselves. The proof is in the polls. America does not approve of the way ICE/CBP and their leadership are handling things.
However, these same sanctuary cities who were collaborating with Biden and Obama Admin with criminals in the system were willing to coordinate with ICE then to deport these individuals. As soon as Trump came into office and his strong stance on deportations and removing criminal illegals, they all postured in their sanctuary policies to remove any collaboration and proceeded to obstruct the capture and deportation of criminal illegals. They rallied their base and protested ICE facilities, refused to coordinate the capture of criminals to be given to ICE-agents and now federal judges are thwarting the deportation criminals. Can any of you honestly think/believe the "Maryland Man" would've even been a blimp on the radar of News Media or Dems if this took place during the Biden or Obama Admin. No, it wouldn't.
I have friends who are BP agents and work the Mexican border in Az. Night & Day they say.. NIGHT & DAY difference..
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Congrats, brock, you are officially the whataboutism king of CS.com. You can’t just admit when Trump does something wrong. You have to follow up with something about Obama or Biden.
Go off, king!Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock
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How are you defining criminals in this statement?Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
I agree with your statement in regards to the flooding of cities with ICE agents. It is not the right direction and I hope this changes.
However, these same sanctuary cities who were collaborating with Biden and Obama Admin with criminals in the system were willing to coordinate with ICE then to deport these individuals. As soon as Trump came into office and his strong stance on deportations and removing criminal illegals, they all postured in their sanctuary policies to remove any collaboration and proceeded to obstruct the capture and deportation of criminal illegals. They rallied their base and protested ICE facilities, refused to coordinate the capture of criminals to be given to ICE-agents and now federal judges are thwarting the deportation criminals. Can any of you honestly think/believe the "Maryland Man" would've even been a blimp on the radar of News Media or Dems if this took place during the Biden or Obama Admin. No, it wouldn't.
I have friends who are BP agents and work the Mexican border in Az. Night & Day they say.. NIGHT & DAY difference..
it has been proven that Minnesota and Minneapolis are handing convicted criminals who are also undocumented immigrants to ICE.
If you are stating that any undocument immigrant is a criminal just for being here, you are wrong. Most undocumented immigrants are in violation of civil law, not criminal. And it’s not the state, county, or city police’s normal job or jurisdiction to make immigration arrests.
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I have no doubt of this (night and day not necessarily representing good and bad, of course).Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
I have friends who are BP agents and work the Mexican border in Az. Night & Day they say.. NIGHT & DAY difference..
"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Someone's gotta pull back on the bullshit hypocrisy and point out the same shit happening before while silence was by those proclaiming such evilness now. Pointing this out does not negate or show support to Trump. Show some consistency.. If you're gonna cry foul, where were you then. Not the same party.. Gotcha..Originally posted by Donuthole View PostCongrats, brock, you are officially the whataboutism king of CS.com. You can’t just admit when Trump does something wrong. You have to follow up with something about Obama or Biden.
Go off, king!
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... I know, however ...
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