ICE ICE baby - the immigration thread

[dabrockster]

Unfortunate situation...

Approximately 35 years ago, Lothirath was convicted of aiding and abetting a drive-by shooting in Rochester, Minnesota, of which he was the driver. The conviction not only ended his path to naturalization but also obligated him to have constant check-ins with ICE. He had never been apprehended by authorities until this year.

Because of his apprehension and felony conviction, he is still eligible for deportation. However, given his rapidly declining health, it is unlikely he will be sent back to his home country.

ICE agreed to fly the refugee back to the Twin Cities 10 days after his detainment, during which he missed two rounds of chemotherapy, after Vilay presented a letter to authorities from M Health Fairview explaining that Lothirath would quickly “succumb” to the cancer if he did not get the proper treatment.

“Shockingly enough, they let him out, but I think it’s because they knew if he stayed, he would have died in their custody,” Vilay told the Minnesota Star Tribune.

After his detention, Lothirath was so weak that it took him a couple of days to be cleared to travel. When he got home, he was immediately hospitalized, leading him to miss two more chemotherapy sessions. Eventually, his cancer spread to the bone marrow, causing him to enter hospice care.

“He was too sick for the fourth session, and then ended up in the hospital again for eight days. So there went the fifth session,” Vilay said.

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-ne...cancer-1765632

[BigPiney]

Unfortunate situation...





https://www.themirror.com/news/us-ne...cancer-1765632

Reminds me of Disneyland. The rumor was that they had a policy of shipping people off campus if they had a major injury so they could claim that no one dies at Disneyland.

[Maximus]

ICE is happy it happened

[dabrockster]

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[BlueK]

The U.S. government detained and deported a 25-year-old man who says he’s a U.S. citizen to Mexico earlier this month, after police stopped the vehicle he was riding in near Fredericksburg, then called immigration authorities when he couldn’t immediately provide identification or proof of citizenship.

Brian José Morales García, who says he was born in Denver but grew up in Mexico, was living and working in Texas at the time of his arrest. In an interview with The Texas Tribune, he said he repeatedly told police and immigration agents that he was a U.S. citizen and that he had a copy of his birth certificate and his Social Security card at home in Austin that he could show them, but was denied the opportunity.


https://www.texastribune.org/2026/04...brian-morales/

[frank ryan]

The U.S. government detained and deported a 25-year-old man who says he’s a U.S. citizen to Mexico earlier this month, after police stopped the vehicle he was riding in near Fredericksburg, then called immigration authorities when he couldn’t immediately provide identification or proof of citizenship.

Brian José Morales García, who says he was born in Denver but grew up in Mexico, was living and working in Texas at the time of his arrest. In an interview with The Texas Tribune, he said he repeatedly told police and immigration agents that he was a U.S. citizen and that he had a copy of his birth certificate and his Social Security card at home in Austin that he could show them, but was denied the opportunity.


https://www.texastribune.org/2026/04...brian-morales/

He's brown that was this is about.

[LVAllen]

Sounds like the natural evolution of a Kavanaugh Stop.

[BlueK]

He's brown that was this is about.

Agreed. That, and also that MAGA is anti civil rights, anti-due process, anti- bill of rights, anti any checks and balances on the executive branch.

[BigFatMeanie]

The U.S. government detained and deported a 25-year-old man who says he’s a U.S. citizen to Mexico earlier this month, after police stopped the vehicle he was riding in near Fredericksburg, then called immigration authorities when he couldn’t immediately provide identification or proof of citizenship.

Brian José Morales García, who says he was born in Denver but grew up in Mexico, was living and working in Texas at the time of his arrest. In an interview with The Texas Tribune, he said he repeatedly told police and immigration agents that he was a U.S. citizen and that he had a copy of his birth certificate and his Social Security card at home in Austin that he could show them, but was denied the opportunity.


https://www.texastribune.org/2026/04...brian-morales/

I read the entire article and a few other aspects interested me:

* Dude doesn't speak English and has dual Mexican citizenship
* His Mexican identification shows a different name and different birth date. The name change was explained away due to differences in Mexican and English spelling of a name. The birth date being different was explained away as a Mexican clerical error.
* Dude signed documents agreeing to a deportation so he could join his wife and daughter who live in Mexico
* US Government disputes that he's a US citizen

All of those things add wrinkles to the story but the thing that really caught my eye was this sentence:

A spokesperson for the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment, which keeps records of births in the state, said the agency is prohibited by state law from providing or confirming the validity of anyone’s birth certificate.

Say what? If a birth certificate can't be validated/authenticated by the issuing authority because of state law, what is the point of the certificate and the issuing authority in the first place? If I was a criminal looking to establish a false identity, I would start with a phony Colorado birth certificate because it can't be validated as real.

[BlueK]

I read the entire article and a few other aspects interested me:

* Dude doesn't speak English and has dual Mexican citizenship
* His Mexican identification shows a different name and different birth date. The name change was explained away due to differences in Mexican and English spelling of a name. The birth date being different was explained away as a Mexican clerical error.
* Dude signed documents agreeing to a deportation so he could join his wife and daughter who live in Mexico
* US Government disputes that he's a US citizen

All of those things add wrinkles to the story but the thing that really caught my eye was this sentence:



Say what? If a birth certificate can't be validated/authenticated by the issuing authority because of state law, what is the point of the certificate and the issuing authority in the first place? If I was a criminal looking to establish a false identity, I would start with a phony Colorado birth certificate because it can't be validated as real.

But, due process.

he was of no threat to the community, so let him go get his documents. That's the old way of handling this. The current way is that we don't care if he's right.

[frank ryan]

But, due process.

he was of no threat to the community, so let him go get his documents. That's the old way of handling this. The current way is that we don't care if he's right.

Hey, he has an accent and is brown. If he was white and spoke clear English it would make more to give him a day or so to get his documents.

You should carry your documents with you at all times if you brown or it's your fault if we throw you out of the country.


ICE is very professional and are fighting a war against non-white freeloaders!

[frank ryan]

It's worth noting that Stephen Miller has been curtailing legal immigration. This is all about the great replacement theory.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...naturalization

The Trump administration is reportedly pushing the justice department to pursue hundreds of denaturalization cases, in which Americans born outside of the US are stripped of their citizenship.

The justice department has already identified 384 foreign-born US citizens, whose citizenship it wants to revoke and will begin the process in the coming weeks, according to the New York Times.

The US government can ask a court to remove citizenship status of people who illegally obtained it. In some cases, people who have been denaturalized have been caught lying to officials or caught entering into a false marriage. In other cases, people who commit crimes can be denaturalized.

Last year, the justice department filed a memo, directing the civil division to target the denaturalization of US citizens around the country and added a number of categories of people who should be targeted. Experts say that it opened the door for the Trump administration to continue pursuing its mass deportation agenda.

Due to the high cost and manpower it takes to pursue denaturalization, the US government infrequently pursues denaturalization cases.

During a meeting last week, senior justice department officials told colleagues that civil litigators in 39 regional offices would be assigned to file the cases. It is not clear what led the justice department to target the 384 individuals.

Between 2017 and late 2025, the US stripped just over 120 naturalized citizens of their citizenship, according to the Times. Now, the 384 people they have identified is only the beginning of the administration’s push to denaturalize people. A top justice department official, Francey Hakes, said the 384 people represent “the first wave of cases” that they intend to pursue, adding that the push to denaturalize more people is a “White House initiative”.

[Northwestcoug]

over a million dollars a day to house 1400 immigrants, two-thirds of which are classified as non-criminal, is still not enough to run Alligator Alcatraz. But DeSantis should have known Trump’s business history:

Mr. DeSantis has said from the start that the federal government would pay back the state for operating the center. But Florida has yet to receive the $608 million federal reimbursement it requested to run the center for about a year.

sounds like the crown jewel of detaining murderers, rapists, and bad hombres will be shut down soon.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/07/u...e-closure.html

[BigPiney]

over a million dollars a day to house 1400 immigrants, two-thirds of which are classified as non-criminal, is still not enough to run Alligator Alcatraz. But DeSantis should have known Trump’s business history:



sounds like the crown jewel of detaining murderers, rapists, and bad hombres will be shut down soon.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/07/u...e-closure.html

I hope florida never gets that money.

[frank ryan]

over a million dollars a day to house 1400 immigrants, two-thirds of which are classified as non-criminal, is still not enough to run Alligator Alcatraz. But DeSantis should have known Trump’s business history:



sounds like the crown jewel of detaining murderers, rapists, and bad hombres will be shut down soon.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/07/u...e-closure.html

Let's see if Nick Shirley can check on this and see if he discovers fraud.