Zohran Mamdani - Democratic Socialist Mayor of NYC

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  • Jeff Lebowski
    Corporate lackey for Jesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 69462

    #226
    It’s only fair.

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    • dabrockster
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10877

      #227
      Mamdani decides to call out Ken Griffin by doing a social media post touting his Billionaire Tax in front of his apartment complex and naming him in his video.

      He is not even hiding who he is..

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      • dabrockster
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 10877

        #228
        Seattle’s Socialist Mayor gives a wave and say, “Bye Felicia” to millionaires exiting her city..

        IMG_7958.jpeg

        As Starbucks looks to leave for TN and CEO is headed to Miami..

        The Washington Post editorial board rebuked Seattle Mayor Katie Wilson for mocking concerns that high taxes are driving wealthy residents out of town.

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        • dabrockster
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 10877

          #229
          Brief interview of Ken Griffin on Mamdani doing a promo in front of his apartment. Interesting points he makes..

          https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8pYHyBD/

          https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8pYsab3/

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          • LVAllen
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 3226

            #230
            Financial Times wrote an article about how the wealthy feel about Mamdani's plans to tax them a bit more. The internet has been laughing at the folks quoted.

            https://www.ft.com/content/3283eaab-...syn-25a6b1a6=1

            Essentially, if you own a second house in NYC, but don't live there for more than 183 days, you don't get hit with income tax, but do get hit with the proposed tax. If they hate the proposed tax, they could simply move to NYC full-time, and avoid it entirely.

            The really funny thing is that some of the people quoted in the article seem to be under the impression they are unique or special. That if they abandoned their plans to do... something.. in NYC, that they couldn't be replaced in a New York minute. If they pulled up stakes and sold their property, and refused to do anything in New York, what does the free market do? Say, "oh no! This potentially profitable idea can't be done now that this specific person won't be doing it!" Yeah, no. If a project is profitable, it will be done. And if it fails? It will eventually be sold to someone else who will repurpose the assets for something else to turn a profit. Do they think projects can't get financing if they aren't attached to it? In New York? Really?

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            • Moliere
              One man.....one pie
              • Oct 2009
              • 27796

              #231
              Originally posted by LVAllen View Post
              Financial Times wrote an article about how the wealthy feel about Mamdani's plans to tax them a bit more. The internet has been laughing at the folks quoted.

              https://www.ft.com/content/3283eaab-...syn-25a6b1a6=1

              Essentially, if you own a second house in NYC, but don't live there for more than 183 days, you don't get hit with income tax, but do get hit with the proposed tax. If they hate the proposed tax, they could simply move to NYC full-time, and avoid it entirely.

              The really funny thing is that some of the people quoted in the article seem to be under the impression they are unique or special. That if they abandoned their plans to do... something.. in NYC, that they couldn't be replaced in a New York minute. If they pulled up stakes and sold their property, and refused to do anything in New York, what does the free market do? Say, "oh no! This potentially profitable idea can't be done now that this specific person won't be doing it!" Yeah, no. If a project is profitable, it will be done. And if it fails? It will eventually be sold to someone else who will repurpose the assets for something else to turn a profit. Do they think projects can't get financing if they aren't attached to it? In New York? Really?
              The lack of financial acuteness on both sides of this thing is scary, but I don’t care becasue it’s NY and has impact on me…except for the somewhat looney conservatives fleeing the state to move to Texas, which actually also has virtually no impact on me.
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Jeff Lebowski
                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 69462

                #232
                Originally posted by LVAllen View Post
                Financial Times wrote an article about how the wealthy feel about Mamdani's plans to tax them a bit more. The internet has been laughing at the folks quoted.

                https://www.ft.com/content/3283eaab-...syn-25a6b1a6=1

                Essentially, if you own a second house in NYC, but don't live there for more than 183 days, you don't get hit with income tax, but do get hit with the proposed tax. If they hate the proposed tax, they could simply move to NYC full-time, and avoid it entirely.

                The really funny thing is that some of the people quoted in the article seem to be under the impression they are unique or special. That if they abandoned their plans to do... something.. in NYC, that they couldn't be replaced in a New York minute. If they pulled up stakes and sold their property, and refused to do anything in New York, what does the free market do? Say, "oh no! This potentially profitable idea can't be done now that this specific person won't be doing it!" Yeah, no. If a project is profitable, it will be done. And if it fails? It will eventually be sold to someone else who will repurpose the assets for something else to turn a profit. Do they think projects can't get financing if they aren't attached to it? In New York? Really?
                It’s a really stupid populist gimmick. In isolation the impact will be limited, but in aggregate, things like this can have a significant impact on a city or state’s economic vitality.

                Populism is stupid whether it happens on the right or the left.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • LVAllen
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 3226

                  #233
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                  It’s a really stupid populist gimmick. In isolation the impact will be limited, but in aggregate, things like this can have a significant impact on a city or state’s economic vitality.

                  Populism is stupid whether it happens on the right or the left.
                  I think that is exactly the argument they have used for promoting the tax. One or two millionaires buying places and leaving them empty most of the year doesn't have much of an effect. Once you get entire developments that are vacant most of the year, that starts to pose issues.

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69462

                    #234
                    Confiscation of property is on the way.

                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • LVAllen
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 3226

                      #235
                      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      Confiscation of property is on the way.

                      They will, in fact, foreclose on unpaid tax liens and fines. Shocking, I know.

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                      • Jeff Lebowski
                        Corporate lackey for Jesus
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 69462

                        #236
                        Originally posted by LVAllen View Post

                        They will, in fact, foreclose on unpaid tax liens and fines. Shocking, I know.
                        He certainly did not limit it to those scenarios, but legally that might end up being be his only option for confiscation.

                        He is also adding a ton of new fees/costs to construction and then making it more difficult to sell. And requiring $40/hr minimum wage on all construction-related jobs. Add this on top of rent control, and I predict fewer people willing to take the financial risk of building in NYC. Everything he is doing is the exact opposite of what he should be doing and will make the problem (limited supply) worse, not better.

                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • dabrockster
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10877

                          #237
                          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                          Confiscation of property is on the way.

                          That is not communistic at all.

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                          • falafel
                            loves to talk on things
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 37869

                            #238
                            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                            He certainly did not limit it to those scenarios, but legally that might end up being be his only option for confiscation.

                            He is also adding a ton of new fees/costs to construction and then making it more difficult to sell. And requiring $40/hr minimum wage on all construction-related jobs. Add this on top of rent control, and I predict fewer people willing to take the financial risk of building in NYC. Everything he is doing is the exact opposite of what he should be doing and will make the problem (limited supply) worse, not better.
                            I don't have much of a comment on the rest of his proposals, but $40/hr on construction jobs is actually lower than the lowest prevailing wage rate in NYC on residential construction jobs, which is $42/hr. at its lowest, ranging up to $100/hr. on some jobs. So.... another nothingburger here.

                            FYI, for comparison sake, Nevada prevailing wages in Clark County, Nevada - aka, the people's Communist Enclave of So. Nevada - is $88/hr.
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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69462

                              #239
                              Originally posted by falafel View Post

                              I don't have much of a comment on the rest of his proposals, but $40/hr on construction jobs is actually lower than the lowest prevailing wage rate in NYC on residential construction jobs, which is $42/hr. at its lowest, ranging up to $100/hr. on some jobs. So.... another nothingburger here.

                              FYI, for comparison sake, Nevada prevailing wages in Clark County, Nevada - aka, the people's Communist Enclave of So. Nevada - is $88/hr.
                              Yeah, that’s probably the least consequential of his crazy proposals. But the general point still stands.
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • falafel
                                loves to talk on things
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 37869

                                #240
                                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                                Yeah, that’s probably the least consequential of his crazy proposals. But the general point still stands.
                                Perhaps not of any consequence at all!
                                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                                Dig your own grave, and save!

                                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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