JD Vance is a duplicitous POS

[falafel]

I've said it in the past, but I'm repeating it here.

Who cares about the labels? I know people like them to vilify people with labels, but it is a huge waste of time.


It is probably more productive debating if the Secret Lives of Mormon wives are Mormon or not.
Disclaimer: No, I've never watched the show.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful or antagonistic. What kind of labels are you talking about? At a certain point, you've got to use words to describe.

[beefytee]

I'm not trying to be disrespectful or antagonistic. What kind of labels are you talking about? At a certain point, you've got to use words to describe.

Fascist - Communist - Socialist - Terrorist - etc.

Pretty useless to argue over anyone falling into the categories.

If you are worried about describing someone and their philosophies, find better terms to label their actions or philosophies.

[frank ryan]

The problem is that none of these labels are precise and simply convey connotations, usually negative, that are projected on any individual or group.

Like I keep saying. This labelling is not useful.

I obviously disagree. I think accuracy matters. And some of "labelling" I'm doing comes from self-referential instances.

[falafel]

Fascist - Communist - Socialist - Terrorist - etc.

Pretty useless to argue over anyone falling into the categories.

If you are worried about describing someone and their philosophies, find better terms to label their actions or philosophies.

Thanks. I had not considered that angle, and I think I agree.

[falafel]

I obviously disagree. I think accuracy matters. And some of "labelling" I'm doing comes from self-referential instances.

I took his comments to mean more that those terms are so loaded, their weight overwhelms accuracy. I agree that accurate, precise communication is is paramount. But when a particular term begins to evoke a charged response, it loses its utility.

[myboynoah]

Thanks. I had not considered that angle, and I think I agree.

Yes, POS is a much better descriptor.

Demonizing and dehumanizing the woman who was shot in the face through her driver-side window.. This is the plan.

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[Jeff Lebowski]

Fascist - Communist - Socialist - Terrorist - etc.

Pretty useless to argue over anyone falling into the categories.

If you are worried about describing someone and their philosophies, find better terms to label their actions or philosophies.

People on both sides are far too sensitive about these labels.

[The_Tick]

I haven't protested about Mamdani being called a commie. He is a socialist so he is far left.

What high profile democrats have called Trump a Nazi? Vance compared him to Hitler. I've not called him a Nazi so don't attribute that shit to me dude.

You may not find me sincere or credible but I am not just name-calling. I'm expressing these thoughts based on an informed opinion and I'm not calling them Nazis.

This admin is being very fascist and racist. Look at the fucking memes about America without people from the 3rd world, about being proud or not ashamed of being white, about Christianity not meaning you have to love the strangers.

This administration is not like previous ones

Frank...I think that you are very sincere. You are passionate about your talking points. I like that about you.

But I'm going to be honest...I see you and Shaka as the same person just on opposite sides of the coin.

[Shaka]

Frank...I think that you are very sincere. You are passionate about your talking points. I like that about you.

But I'm going to be honest...I see you and Shaka as the same person just on opposite sides of the coin.

[dabrockster]

Frank...I think that you are very sincere. You are passionate about your talking points. I like that about you.

But I'm going to be honest...I see you and Shaka as the same person just on opposite sides of the coin.

Umm. I think one can honestly say “Bad Trump” At times and the other will never… ever… “Bad Lefty”..

[frank ryan]

Umm. I think one can honestly say “Bad Trump” At times and the other will never… ever… “Bad Lefty”..

I've criticized democrats at times when I think appropriate with more specificity than "bad liberal".

[chrisrenrut]

Umm. I think one can honestly say “Bad Trump” At times and the other will never… ever… “Bad Lefty”..

The fact that you don’t think Frank has ever been critical of democrats and liberals speaks volumes. You have a serious issue about Frank. I would suggest you put him on ignore. Seeing his posts cannot be good for your mental health.

[dabrockster]

The fact that you don’t think Frank has ever been critical of democrats and liberals speaks volumes. You have a serious issue about Frank. I would suggest you put him on ignore. Seeing his posts cannot be good for your mental health.

Hard to take you seriously with that statement.

[YOhio]

I'm using labels to convey my opinion because I think it's accurate. I find it unfair when it's assumed I'm just being pejorative.

This made me laugh. You have a hammer and sickle GOP billboard as your profile picture. Maybe it's a little fair to assume you're being pejorative.

[frank ryan]

This made me laugh. You have a hammer and sickle GOP billboard as your profile picture. Maybe it's a little fair to assume you're being pejorative.

You could throw the same charge out to any active poster on these threads if you wanted to.

You've already made up your mind about my opinions and my intentions and it's pretty unfair.

The Hammer and Sickle was a nod to the Grand old Party's obvious deference to Russia. Something that time continues to validate. I know you find that one silly.